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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:36 am 
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I don't care if the President and First Lady meet with the Martins. GZ was found not guilty and nothing can change that. :neener

After all, the President is half black and doesn't have to worry about being elected again.


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Maybe the Obama's took the time to meet/tell Sybrina and Tracy that there's no basis for a federal charges against GZ and there would be no charges forthcoming. Though they would do their best to fight SYG laws.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:24 pm 
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What I notice is there wasn't a whole lot of publicity about that meeting - where are the official photos?

I'm telling you... things are changing, or at least at a tipping point where they may change. I could be wrong, but I hope not. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:26 pm 
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Maybe the Obama's took the time to meet/tell Sybrina and Tracy that there's no basis for a federal charges against GZ and there would be no charges forthcoming. Though they would do their best to fight SYG laws.


When the DOJ paid them a visit a couple of weeks ago, I thought they were bringing them up to speed. Telling them that there wasn't anything there. I am little concerned that Shellie's interview may have delayed that.

They went to the Zimmerman's the next week to update them also but I don't think RZjr has tweeted anything about it. Also, I don't remember where I read it and am too lazy to google for it.


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ICYMI: Darryl Parks debates Hannity and Horace Cooper about TM™ (non) case v. (actual) crimes, and the politicization of the TM™ (non) case, particularly presidential involvement.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:09 am 
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The Aftermath of the George Zimmerman Case, Part 1: The Trial, the Evidence and the Verdict
By Jonathan Cohen
August 31, 2013

The aftermath of the verdict in the George Zimmerman case has been as depressing as the actions and atmosphere during the 17 months preceding the trial. The misuse of state power for political purposes and the deliberate misleading of the public by much of the media concerning the facts of the case pre-trial, has been matched in the aftermath by the threats by the US Department of Justice to retry the case in Federal Court and the refusal by many politicians and members of the press to explain the verdict as stemming from the evidence presented at trial. The collection of witness testimony, physical evidence and the forensic evaluation of the gunshot wound that clearly pointed towards Zimmerman's innocence. In coming to grips with the verdict's implications one must begin with an understanding of the actual evidence in the case. This is the first article in a three part series about the case. This article is devoted to a synopsis of the key evidence in the trial, highlighting the misconceptions that have been promulgated frequently in the media's reporting. In the second, the role of the media, the lawyers and the racial divide will be explored. The third article will reflect on how racial history impacts how people viewed the case.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:12 pm 
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A good link to share with any that lean towards the Scheme Team side.


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Good article, thanks, Rumpole.

Unfortunately, kbp, those who are unaware of the info won't read it, and those capable of independent thought already do.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Nice to read stuff laid out so clearly.

I can evaluate evidence formulate my own assessments as well as the next man (or woman)... but others do have better skills at expressing things... I defer to them... learn a little from them, and improve myself... I hope :cool

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Good point, Rumpole. I think the piece is well worth reading, I just don't think the Trayborg™ will understand it, even laid out so well and inarguably. I've already seen them on twitter, without any argument as always, making blanket assertions such as, "That's wrong." No counter-point, correction, etc., just "wrong" if it doesn't fit their imprinting.

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My best friend was certain some crime happened because an unarmed teenager was shot. When I told him of the verdict, he asked me "who's responsible". I completed a 12 page response, 6 of which were pictures and notes, to explain the most responsible individuals were his parents, IMO.

Our friendship is fine, it's not a debate. However, he has not mentioned it again and I still send him links like Rumpole posted. His debate, if he has one, would be with those publishing the facts.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:03 pm 
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THE DAY HAS COME – JACK CASHILL’S NEW BOOK “IF I HAD A SON” NOW AVAILABLE!!!
Posted on August 31, 2013 by stella

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If I had a Son: Race, Guns, and the Railroading of George Zimmerman

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In the Amazon publisher’s description are these words:

    All that stood between Zimmerman and lifetime internment were two folksy local lawyers, their aides, and some very dedicated citizen journalists, most notably an unpaid handful of truth seekers at the blogging collective known as the Conservative Treehouse.


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Just read this wonderful passage – as the trial begins:

    By trial time, this obscure little blog had become information central in Florida v. Zimmerman. Florida had on its side the state bureaucracies, the US Justice Department, the president of the United States, the BGI, the entertainment industry, and the mainstream media. Zimmerman had on his side two folksy local lawyers and their aides, an army of bloggers, and, most important, the truth. Despite the pressures, the Treepers had retained their integrity. Truth was still the coin of their realm. They cozied up to no one, not even defense attorneys Mark O’Mara and Don West, whom they criticized as warranted. If the attorneys wanted information, they came to the Treehouse. The Treepers did not go to them. This was an unprecedented battle formation in the history of American jurisprudence, and the major media did not even notice. Their talking heads prattled on about trivia utterly irrelevant to the jurors in Sanford— Don West’s knock-knock joke consumed them for a day— while the bloggers unearthed new information and processed it swiftly.

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kbp wrote:
My best friend was certain some crime happened because an unarmed teenager was shot. When I told him of the verdict, he asked me "who's responsible". I completed a 12 page response, 6 of which were pictures and notes, to explain the most responsible individuals were his parents, IMO.

Our friendship is fine, it's not a debate. However, he has not mentioned it again and I still send him links like Rumpole posted. His debate, if he has one, would be with those publishing the facts.

I would agree...as far as the death goes... The Parents for sure... but in part the sin is omission... failing to counter other influences... and ultimately Trayvon HIMSELF of course.
Beyond the event itself, there are truckloads of blame for many individuals who hyped the event... The wider Scheme Team and all it's tentacles.

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Just reading the comments posted at the American Thinker article. This comment was posted by someone who says he was former LE detective. It just adds to the mystery criminal activities of TM.

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Zimmerman was reasonably in fear of death or great bodily injury, also defined
by Florida Statutes. While it is irreverent to the criminal case, Martin had
several brushes with the law prior to the bight he was killed. Don't bother
trying to look them, however, the agency in his home town removed the records
from the system. In one of those now undocumented cases, Martin was almost shot
by an officer after Martin reached to his waistband.
Undoubtedly, had that
encounter turned deadly (my compliments to the officer maintaining a cool head),
that also would have devolved into a media feeding frenzy.


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Interesting... but I have to say... first HINT of the incident referred to anywhere.. it needs corroboration.

I do know about the "diversion" in place in Miami.. where TM was one of many "at risk black kids" who were spared a criminal record by under reporting/recording/classifying CRIMES. That stuff is the subject of a huge amount of research done by Sundance (and the team) at CTH. However, I have read most of that and do not remember the "nearly shot" incident.

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"In one of those now undocumented cases, Martin was almost shot
by an officer after Martin reached to his waistband."

Am I the only hearing about this for the first time?

Not the school cops rewriting history to get better stats, but the almost got shot part.

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That is definitely something new....and ultimately may be imaginary.


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Rumpole wrote:
The Ebook, available for $9.99 at Amazon can be read on a Kindle or, by using one of the free Amazon apps, you can read it on your phone, laptop, desktop etc, or even on line.


Purchase Amazon Ebook
http://www.amazon.com/had-Son-Railroadi ... 1376680300

Amazon Free Kindle Reading Apps
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/r ... 1000493771

Thanks for this info!! A few days ago I pre-ordered the hard cover as I didn't see where they had it in the Kindle version. I cancelled that order after seeing your post. And I got the kindle version. It looks like it's going to be a really interesting book.


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