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What about an animated feature including all of the Scheme Team... perhaps use use a nest of rats... with suitable voices.

Of course a big fat Crump Rat that is quite "In our tickle it" talking about "Objectib ebidents" :lol

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I don't know how much influence it will have on the jury, but it is night and day the difference between the types of people Mr. Zimmerman associated with as opposed the type of people Mr. Martin did. Now of course Mr. Martin was young and probably this would change, but still it is a stark difference.


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I'm somewhat lost as to how the state could have expected the tox to be excluded now, other than Nelson being the judge.

:Gslap Because wherever Nelson has any discretion whatsoever she will most definitely side with the state. She only rules in favor of the defense when she's painted into a corner, like with the tox report.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:47 pm 
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5:35 p.m.
O’Mara says they are about 10 minutes away from having their witness present for the Daubert hearing.

Mantei says the number of blows being depicted in the exhibit has been removed and the objection no longer applies for that, but a number remain.

Judge Nelson asks if it would be helpful for the state to talk to the expert, Mr Shoemaker.

Mantei says he would be happy to do that.

Judge Nelson says she would like to take the issue up now.

Guy asks to substitute the timeline exhibit with a new fresh printed one.

Court is in recess until she is told they are ready.

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The ME opened the door to get the marijuana in. I find that amazing.


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I don't know how much influence it will have on the jury, but it is night and day the difference between the types of people Mr. Zimmerman associated with as opposed the type of people Mr. Martin did. Now of course Mr. Martin was young and probably this would change, but still it is a stark difference.

What witnesses do they have to help them consider who the Martin family associated with ...besides Chad? I do not even recall any testimony that revealed TrayDad wandering off the reservation.


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Did Mr. Donnelley's testimony about this being about truth get through to her?

That would sure be something but let's not get our hopes up. Seriously. Where she has discretion, where it's not essentially black letter law, she rules for the state.

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Rumpole wrote:
Now doing Animation... have to have a Daubert hearing...... call a witness


Thing we have now instead of Frye hearing

If denied, I wonder if MOM could get the 5th DCA to agree that the delay in hearing this matter wasn't the fault of the defense and the Frye standard should have applied? Does anyone recall when this was submitted in discovery and/or the date of the state's objection?

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Rumpole wrote:
What about an animated feature including all of the Scheme Team... perhaps use use a nest of rats... with suitable voices.

Of course a big fat Crump Rat that is quite "In our tickle it" talking about "Objectib ebidents" :lol

Are you being coy? Is the animation one of your jib-jabs? :Gslap

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flareon wrote:
I don't know how much influence it will have on the jury, but it is night and day the difference between the types of people Mr. Zimmerman associated with as opposed the type of people Mr. Martin did. Now of course Mr. Martin was young and probably this would change, but still it is a stark difference.

Yes, and this may explain why the state didn't offer other witnesses to id his voice on the 911 call. And also why it would be a risk to offer more #8's in rebuttal.

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The ME opened the door to get the marijuana in. I find that amazing.

Do you remember if that was on cross or direct? Not important enough to look it up, just curious, if you or anyone recalls. TIA

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If animation denied as Objectib ebidents... I cant see why they could still not just use it as a demo.. in closing arguments?

People use charts and drawings all the time... it's an extension of that???

What say the Lawyers here?

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So now Root's testimony is in but limited?? I really don't know what happened with that.


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flgirl543 wrote:
Did Mr. Donnelley's testimony about this being about truth get through to her?

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That would sure be something but let's not get our hopes up. Seriously. Where she has discretion, where it's not essentially black letter law, she rules for the state.

You quickly forget how she ruled on the Richardson issue? I had thoughts cross my mind about MOM doing that on purpose to force Nelson to show her hand ...it seems too openly dishonest of MOM to have done that, he knew where his witness was going.


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liesel wrote:
Do you remember if that was on cross or direct? Not important enough to look it up, just curious, if you or anyone recalls. TIA


Sorry, I don't recall.


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kbp wrote:
What witnesses do they have to help them consider who the Martin family associated with ...besides Chad? I do not even recall any testimony that revealed TrayDad wandering off the reservation.


I'm talking about Trayvon Martin.


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Are they done for the day?


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Waiting for animation guy to arrive... talk to both side... then Drag Nelson cak for a Daubert Hearing... stay tuned

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Question: At this point, does anyone think that Rachel (DeeDee) will be called back to the stand?

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