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Six council by-elections tonight:

Not important outside local concerns, except results may give a HINT of general political mood of voters.

Watch this space for results.... :roll

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Hundleton (Pembrokeshire) result:
Ind GAIN from Ind.
One independent replacing another does not tell us much about favoured Party

This does not look good for DimLibs... lost from what was more than 50% last election?
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Labour hold this one... but Lab lost 10% (to DimLibs)
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DimLibs hold.. but Lab lose 12%
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Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and the Green Party form election pact

"Determined to stop Brexit"

To be this adamant to ignore the result of the Referendum is a sad indictment of these people. Without "losers consent", stable "democratic" society does not work. These people are in effect saying that 52% of the people were wrong, and so smarter people need to negate their decision. Rule by some sort of elite does have some appeal (to me)...I have no idea how we could select the smart, good people to be in charge of everything.... but Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and the Green Party, people are NOT who I would likely include in a ruling elite.

So Jo Swinson and the gang are advocating that the people who voted leave were wrong (for whatever reason) and that we should reverse what they chose... they chose wrong. Without "losers consent" democracy, and government according to what a majority vote is lost. Jo and the gang see themselves as "an elite" who can decide better than a majority of citizens. Rule by an elite might have some merits, but I have no idea how you would decide who ws in or out of "the elite" My first elimination rule would be NOBODY who is part of, or ever voted for, DimLibs, Plaid Cymru or the Green Party would be included in any decision.

I am Pro leave, but I wish these (women) every success!
Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and the Green Party with balance of power over Marxist Labour block in Parliament... an Abomination Coalition.. would be preferable to Boris deal, which is NOT BREXIT. An absolute pig's mess in Parliament (again) (and another election eventually) might finally be enough to get a plan to get a REAL BREXIT.

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INCLUDE JO SWINSON IN THE DEBATE!

Somebody has to make the tea and a plate of sandwiches!!

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Oop North!....
( Nigel's best hope)

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The event earlier in South Wales... Pontypool...

Brexit party leader Nigel Farage speaks in Wales - watch live



Nigel Farage challenges Boris Johnson to Brexit deal debate!
No sign of Boris accepting the challenge.. COWARD! (Politician) :doh

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The evening event in Caerleon, Newport.....

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"The Coldra" in Caerleon is the Hospital where I was born... just sayin' :cool

Celtic Manor Resort (Coldra)
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In 1930 Wyndham donated the house to the local health authority and, in 1940, it became the Lydia Beynon Maternity Hospital, named in honour of his mother. Over 60,000 babies were born there, including the present owner Sir Terry Matthews. It closed as a hospital on 1 March 1977.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Manor_Resort


Nigel's speech on periscope
https://www.pscp.tv/brexitparty_uk/1djGXRvrZjvxZ



DO NOT SPLIT THE BREXIT VOTE - GIVE IT ALL TO THE BREXIT PARTY
TORIES ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE BREXIT VOTE... under false pretenses.
ONLY IF.. Boris wises up and drops the BRINO will I concede that some electorates could vote Tory.

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This Brexit candidate Richard Taylor... impressive WELSH speaker

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Richard Taylor : Newport #Brexit party election tour.
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Standing for Blaenau Gwent (UK Parliament constituency)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaenau_G ... nstituency)
Electorate voted 62% LEAVE in Referendum


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I think that people are so averse to a Corbyn win, that they are simply turning a blind eye to the fact that a Boris win will mean his deal wins also. It is NOT BREXIT. There is plenty of evidence/discussion online, but most people are not involved enough to find it/ look for it, and MSM are in denial and/or too lazy to research and inform the public. In fact media hacks just parrot biased political talking points.

It is not likely that Farage has "taken a psychedelic substance", I am disappointed that you accept that as an explanation. BORIS DEAL IS NOT BREXIT. IF you accept that, then Farage position makes total sense. There is plenty of evidence/discussion online that Boris deal is not Brexit. The MSM are in denial, but info is available if people look. Farage has offered to debate the point with Boris.. I am sure Boris will decline, because he KNOWS his "deal" can not withstand scrutiny. DO NOT SPLIT THE BREXIT VOTE - GIVE IT ALL TO THE BREXIT PARTY. TORIES ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE BREXIT VOTE... under false pretenses.
IF Corbyn wins the election (I doubt he will ), then BORIS will be to blame for trying to CON the people with a BRINO. Besides the people deserve what they vote for. Frankly with Tories promising to spend like socialists, Corbyn may not be that much worse. The Tories are even going along with the "Climate Crisis" hoax.. so it's Clown World with or without Corbyn. Corbyn would be busy negotiating Brexit from scratch and running a second Referendum on EU (and a referendum on Scottish Independence). He wouldn't be able to Nationalise stuff while he remains stuck in EU. IF Boris does win and ratify his treaty, then UK pays a shitload of money, remains in EU and in "transition" for 3 years and beyond, and likely all this will carry on and not make the news....... but there may well be ..... TROUBLE.. down the track when people find out that Brexit never happened. I expect Boris WILL win, and Farage will get few to zero seats, but at least Farage is informing/warning people that they will not get Brexit at all

I just listened to Ann Widdecombe TRYING to explain to Andrew Castle on LBC that the BORIS DEAL IS NOT BREXIT. She made it quite clear that it was not simply a "bad brexit", but it was not Brexit at all. But by the end of the interview Castle was STILL blissfully ignorant, asking... "but you might split the Brexit vote"!!! It seems to me that the notion that Boris deal is Brexit is IMPRINTED!! People can not Grasp the point that HAMPERING Boris is DESIRABLE because his NOT BREXIT is as bad as, if not worse than the other forms of NOT BREXIT.
And the callers who followed were THICK as well. Saying that Farage would be to blame if Corbyn won. It would make more sense to BLAME BORIS in that case. It is BORIS who is lying and trying to con voters with a BRINO.

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Nigel in Sedgefield on Monday at 19:00 GMT.

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BORIS DEAL IS NOT BREXIT. While the Tories are running on that deal they are a REMAIN PARTY
DO NOT SPLIT THE BREXIT VOTE - GIVE IT ALL TO THE BREXIT PARTY
TORIES ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE BREXIT VOTE... under false pretenses.
ONLY IF.. Boris wises up and drops the BRINO will I concede that some electorates could vote Tory.


There is good reason for Farage to strive to do well in this election. Once people realise they have been conned by Boris BRINO there will be another burst of political upheaval, another election. Farage needs to set the best base he can with structure in individual electorates.


What the BBC push as important issue.....
This Matters: Is this the 'climate election'? - BBC News
YOU REALLY ARE DOOMED UK!!!

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Opinium Poll just out....

NOT looking good for my boy, Nige! :doh


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And Deltapoll show identical numbers (mostly)... :doh
CON: 41% (+1)
LAB: 29% (+1)
LDEM: 16% (+2)
BREX: 6% (-5)


You gov not so bad...

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Brexit AT RISK: Farage warns Boris he has just 4 days to save Britain from Remain alliance
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PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Nov 10, 2019

NIGEL FARAGE today gives Boris Johnson a final ultimatum and warns the “clock is ticking” to secure a Leave alliance that will “finish off Labour for a generation”.

The leader of the Brexit Party defied calls to step back – some from his own allies – and said Mr Johnson has until Thursday to compromise, when General Election candidates need to hand in their nomination papers. Otherwise, he warned, his party will field candidates in every seat in England, Wales and Scotland and Mr Farage warns the “die will be cast” for a split in the Leave vote. He has also challenged the Prime Minister to a televised debate.

He said: “If Boris truly believes that he has a ‘great new deal’, then let’s have a debate...I will debate it with him anytime and anywhere over the next five weeks.”

The defiant message comes after it emerged Mr Farage’s former allies in Leave. EU have spoken to 100 Brexit Party candidates in a bid to persuade them to stand down.

Analysis suggests two out of every three Brexit Party voters comes from the Tories, although Mr Farage has insisted he is targeting the Labour Leave vote.

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Nigel Farage WILL appear on live BBC election debate and Question Time special after demanding to be given the chance to grill Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn over Brexit

  • He is expected be one of 'leaders' from the major parties in a seven-way debate
  • Farage also being lined up for a 30-minute Question Time special before election
  • They will give Mr Farage the opportunity to make his case to Brexit supporters
  • Tories and Labour fear his decision to stand candidates will rob them of votes


By Paul Revoir Media Editor For The Daily Mail
Published: 09:27 AEDT, 9 November 2019 | Updated: 11:14 AEDT, 9 November 2019

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage is set to appear in two election shows announced by the BBC yesterday.

He is expected be one of the 'leaders or senior figures' from the major parties in a seven-way debate and is also being lined up for a 30-minute Question Time special to be broadcast in the run up to polling day on December 12.

The appearances will give Mr Farage the opportunity to make his case to Brexit supporters.

Both the Tories and Labour fear his decision to stand hundreds of candidates will deprive them of votes.

The BBC also announced yesterday that it was airing a head-to-head debate between Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson accused the broadcaster of being 'complicit' in an 'establishment stitch-up' by excluding her from the Prime Ministerial Debate.

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I thought Farage leaving UKIP and starting up his new party was very harsh on UKIP. They were naturally knocked back, but I retained hope they could rise again (especially with Richard Braine as leader).... but not right now since Farage Brexit Party has captured the political space that UKIP might court. A few weeks ago, when BREXIT at least had a chance of building back over time... I would have said it would make sense to field just a few candidates.. mainly to keep their branch structures and personnel in place, but...... after the recent bickering and resignations.. I would have thought it was time to end UKIP. I do hope they are very selective as to where they field candidates... not places where they will damage the BXP vote. or the Tory vote since they are comprehending Tory to get Brexit (wrongly)

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Three Brexit election priorities have already gone down a storm, says NIGEL FARAGE

WEEK one of the General Election campaign, and I have already addressed packed rallies from Bolsover in the East Midlands to Workington in the North West and Newport in South Wales.

By Nigel Farage
PUBLISHED: 08:26, Sun, Nov 10, 2019 | UPDATED: 11:33, Sun, Nov 10, 2019

My three priorities have been: to expose how Leave voters have been utterly betrayed by Corbyn’s Labour, the party of a second referendum; to tell the unflattering truth about Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal; and to give people a genuine democratic choice. These arguments have been going down a storm. And we’re only just getting started. I have made no secret of my serious criticisms of Boris’ new EU treaty. The Prime Minister keeps claiming that his deal will ‘get Brexit done’. The problem is, Boris, that it’s not Brexit. And the Conservatives can’t get Brexit done.

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I see the FLACK Nigel is getting. Calls to "Stand down" Submissions that Tories could destroy Labour, and BXP might derail that, but... It Is BORIS that is "splitting the vote".. conning people that Brexit will end as soon as he forms a Government. I HOPE Nigel stands strong. He will make an important point of principle if nothing else, and WE WILL BE BACK arguing Brexit once LEAVE VOTERS realise that they were conned by Boris


I very much DOUBT that Corbyn will win the election., but....
Britain has survived Labour (socialist) governments before, and we can do it again. A Corbyn government will likely be very short lived anyway, and too busy with Brexit still (and a Scottish referendum) to do as much harm as they might otherwise.
Frankly, as far as Brexit goes, Corbyn government is preferable to Tory government. Boris deal is STEALTH REMAIN.. that many people will not see until months later, at least with Corbyn he will be bumbling about with Brexit negotiations, and referendum for all to see

BORIS DEAL - STEALTH REMAIN

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I see this poll on Twitter....

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It demonstrates the problem... people have ben conned and may well vote based on false notions that they have been fed... I'll FIX the options :cool

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Farage announces BXP will not stand in the 317 constituencies won by the Cons in 2017 :wall

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I was most disappointed in ERG (Tory Spartans) betrayal. Nigel be like "hold my pint".. SAD!
BXP was never going to win many (any) seats in a FPTP election, but they COULD have been the one political group with PRINCIPLES, and they could have at least alerted people to the facts about the Boris Treaty. When the people wake up and realise that Boris deal is STEALTH REMAIN they might well have turned to BXP as at least sticking to it's principles.


Corbyn was NEVER going to "get in" unless stupid people voted for him, and if they did they would deserve the consequences. BXP was NEVER going to win seats in a FPTP election, but they COULD have stuck by principles, and gained support in next election, when people wake up and realise that Boris conned them. The fact remains that Boris deal is STEALTH REMAIN and so it does NOT advance "Brexit" if Farage steps aside to facilitate Boris.


The maths suggests that BXP might now contest 314 seats. So 286 candidates all set to go will need to step down, along with their support staff and volunteered etc


Sounds like a plan... get BXP MPs elected to hold Boris to account. Problem is... BXP are NOT going to win any seats in a FPTP election, certainly not enough to be any sort of influence group in Parliament. Boris tells lies and the same old gang will be back in Parliament (mostly). Brexit dies when Boris ratifies his treaty (STEALTH REMAIN), but it may be years before the people wake up and realise they were conned. The transition will NOT end in 2020. I doubt it will end ever. Nigel will be back on LBC.

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TDS "Muh Orange Man Bad"... is so severe in UK libtards... that mention of (alleged) TRUMP association is akin to being a serial killer :doh


Jeremy Corbyn says Brexit Party moving towards ‘Trump alliance’
Published: Nov 11, 2019 3:51 p.m. ET

Labour Party chief Jeremy Corbyn has denounced the decision by Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage not to challenge the Conservative Party in seats it won at the last British election.

Corbyn tweeted Monday that the emerging alliance between Farage’s Brexit Party and Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservatives ahead of the Dec. 12 national election must be stopped.

He says Farage’s decision was influenced by President Donald Trump’s recent call for Farage to form a pro-Brexit alliance with Johnson.

See also: British pound surges after Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage says he won’t challenge Conservative seats

Corbyn says “one week ago Donald Trump told Nigel Farage to make a pact with Boris Johnson ... today, Trump got his wish.”

The Labour leader called the move a “Trump alliance” that would allow U.S. drug companies to get a foothold in Britain’s National Health Service.

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