I don't understand how anyone can still be undecided. There are only 2 choices. It's not like McDonalds with 10 combo meals and you have to decide what you are hungry for.

Not everybody is as interested as us

I do despair when I see some examples of "average citizens".... mainly from the point of view of them NOT being informed about life generally, let alone all the issues in and around an election. I dont mean to sound "elitist"....some people simply dont pay attention to news.. certainly not Political news... and when they do they are fed propaganda and false info anyway. I would just be happier if some uninformed people didn't vote at all

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I'm so tired and grumpy I can't stand myself. I don't even want you to breathe the same air I'm breathing right now but, I still am trying to keep up with politics as best I can. A long time friend called tonight and starting repeating MSM bull chit. I had to get him off the phone before I exploded. I feel bad because he was calling to check on me. How can you NOT BE BETTER INFORMED in the age of technology? SMH


I think you are right, he will be in the 50's.

Just recently I was called "Fucking insane" 3 times because I support Trump.


What set the person off? I said "You do realize that Trump was never called a racist before he ran for the presidency and it was "Hillary Clinton who said that blacks are super predators who need to be brought to heel."

Person also told me, "Yeah, yeah, sure, Hillary hates black people."


You can't make this stuff up.

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My wife has the same media generated negative view of Trump. In her defense... she does not follow US politics at all.. sees only MSM news among world news.

There is absolutely no point in my arguing with her.. trying to supply facts. (I have tried). She just accuses ME of being "brainwashed" by Trump propaganda. I have said I wont argue, it is pointless unless SHE goes and finds facts herself. NOT from Trump propaganda (as she calls it). Unless people have basic facts one just as well argue with a brick wall

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Yep. People are blind.

This is the third time today that this quote is appropriate

Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!
___ Leonardo da Vinci

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Yeah. I most recently told my wife she was IGNORANT... and supplied the definition

We do still have the $10 bet on who wins the election. Further discussion halted

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I wasn't including your wife in the blindly ignorant. I was thinking of all the idiots here who do have the power to vote, which they will use, and have the power to think and research and learn, which they will not use.

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The supposed "Model" for "Democracy" in Ancient Greece actually involved ONLY educated and informed "voters". The "Hoi polloi" (as the Greeks called them) did not get to vote!!!

I think we stuffed up badly when we supposedly adopted "Democracy"... lost something in the translation

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I am not opposed to a Litmus test for voting.

Question, "Are you going to vote for Hillary?"

Answer, "Yes."

Conclusion; You have failed the Litmus test no ballot for you.

Next.

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A simple IQ test would help.

IQ 100 is an arbitrary standard.. not a particularly "high bar" (It is quite SCARY when you contemplate that HALF the population (voters) have IQ 100 or less!!!!!) but it makes absolutely NO SENSE to dilute any decision by a group to include the mentally challenged (IQ<100) For most IMPORTANT decisions everyday people go to clever people (IQ 120+).... specialists.
People dont (for instance) base medical treatment decisions based on a random sample of what their daft neighbors think

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Imagine the average IQ of the BLM crowd.

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I hate to be sharing a bunch of 30+ minute videos. However, I use realclearpolitics.com for most of my polling data. I find this video very interesting and while it is not totally just a Pro Trump discussion it is an honest discussion about why Trump is showing as he is in most of the polling data.

Polling Bias Against Donald Trump | Bill Mitchell and Stefan Molyneux






(Rumpole will knock me into line if I am not meeting rules of the thread)

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THX WKC

As I said.. you are on safe ground posting Stefan Molyneux stuff... and Bill Mitchell is always good too

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Great Rally in OH by Trump.

I really LOVE the upping the ante on Clinton Crimes.. and the corrupt administration giving her and Bill and the whole crew a pass!!

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I figured out where the bobble-heads on TV are going wrong!!

They are viewing Trump and politics generally from their own entrenched perspective... what Trump needs to do/not do... how they regard Crooked Hillary (treating her as a real person and ignoring all the lies and crimes)

This election will be decided by VOTERS and not TV bobble-heads.

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O'Reilly has Trump on live now I believe.

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I watched "The Factor". I am sure Bill THINKS he is "fair"... but his questions are often pushing his own daft notions.. Trump handles him OK.. and I wouldn't mind so much IF Crooked Hillary got the same treatment.. over and over... but she simply hides from all such interviews.

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I missed the Trump interview. And Hillary is nearing the 300 day mark of not holding a press conference

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EVERYBODY regards $400 million in cash given to Iran as a RANSOM
It is a moot point whether Obama Admin fess up... the entire world now regard kidnapping US citizens as a way to make money.

EVERYBODY regards Crooked Hillary and her gang as a Crime syndicate.
IF she escapes a prison sentence and people are silly enough to vote her in as POTUS
It is a moot point whether she (and her crew) is held accountable.... the entire world will interact with USA knowing the President is a crook and a pathological liar.

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