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Eric Ciaramella, Schiff’s ‘whistleblower,’ has ties to Susan Rice and Joe Biden
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WASHINGTON, DC: The worst kept secret in Washington is that former NSC staffer and CIA employee Eric Ciaramella is Adam Schiff’s secret “whistleblower” in the ongoing Nancy Pelosi impeachment farce. More importantly, Ciaramella has a long history with Obama NSC advisor Susan Rice and former Vice President Joe Biden.

Add that to the list of “witnesses” before Schiff ‘s Stassi East German secret police-style lack of intelligence committee. You have a succession of partisan Trump-haters with long pedigrees of either being Democrat operatives. Deep ties to Burisma holdings. Or active participants in the George Soros Open Societies Foundations.
A steady stream of Deep State Trump-hating partisans

It is a remarkable parade. Eric Ciaramella. Ambassador Marie Yovanovich. Ambassador William Taylor. Schiff staffers and former NSC employees Abigail Grace and Sean Misko both joining the staff of his committee in August 2019. Just in time for the “whistleblower” report to be coordinated.

Both worked with Ciaramella on the NSC in the Obama White House.

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Who Is Eric Ciaramella?
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This twitter guy seems to be outing the Ciaramella stuff..

Not happy with Fox news ignoring his evidence... Seems he got the Hannity "Tick Tock..." to nowhere... :roll

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https://twitter.com/GregRubini

The beef seems to be that Hannity credited Paul Sperry

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_


I AM SHOCKED that CTH cult are not demanding that Sundance gets the credit..

....as the source of all knowledge :lol

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The Beltway's 'Whistleblower' Furor Obsesses Over One Name
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
October 30, 2019, 4:21 PM Eastern

For a town that leaks like a sieve, Washington has done an astonishingly effective job keeping from the American public the name of the anonymous “whistleblower" who triggered impeachment proceedings against President Trump — even though his identity is an open secret inside the Beltway.

More than two months after the official filed his complaint, pretty much all that’s known publicly about him is that he is a CIA analyst who at one point was detailed to the White House and is now back working at the CIA.

But the name of a government official fitting that description — Eric Ciaramella — has been raised privately in impeachment depositions, according to officials with direct knowledge of the proceedings, as well as in at least one open hearing held by a House committee not involved in the impeachment inquiry. Fearing their anonymous witness could be exposed, Democrats this week blocked Republicans from asking more questions about him and intend to redact his name from all deposition transcripts.

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Eric Ciaramella Attorney, January 2017: “Coup Has Started” – July 2017: “We Will Remove Him”…



#FakeWistleBlower, Ciaramella's - Lawyer is Mark S. Zaid

Oh dear... he reveal "The Coup" against Trump way back in 2017.... :doh
Impeachment, rellion, Coup all part of the Deep Stae plan...
These morons (and Schiff) got a lot of 'splainin to do

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https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status ... 9235979265


This tweet about Trump was in reply to Virginia Barnett
whose twitter account is private (now) :doh
https://twitter.com/Vbarnett323


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I wonder if this douchebag even realizes that plotting the overthrow of the Government of the United States is a felony and is one of the (several) types of Treason identified in 18 USC…

It’s not like he said he’s going to work to beat Trump in the next election. He is threatening overthrow by coup and using the specific term “rebellion”. That’s illegal. Look it up.

The fact that he seems to have carried out his plan means that it’s not just rhetoric but an ACTUAL PLAN OF ACTION. Making it clear-cut treason.


NOT that I think anybody is going to get indicted, let alone convicted of anything....
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18 USC, 2382: Misprison of Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

18 USC, 2383, Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

18 USC, 2384, Seditious Conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

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This is the sort of CRAP the UK public are getting from their Fake News media..

Which is as bad as, (if not worse than) US Media.

"Orange man bad" is common in UK Media.. and a chunk of the public.. in fact, TDS bubbles away even in light entertainment shows.. with ant-itrump cheep shots common

I spotted this on Sky news.. an interview with a US professor, author and "expert" Whose word will be taken as FACT by many UK viewers who are simply NOT informed (or interested) in the details of USA politics.

(I can not find a video of the interview... yet.... but will post if I do)
The guy looks to have been interviewed by others... so likely spouted same crap elsewhere :)

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ETA: I did find a US podcast... Host may not be quite as biased as Sky UK?

Impeachment Expert: Trump Impeachment is unique
Frank O. Bowman III: U of Missouri School of Law

The Randy Tobler Show
November 06, 2019 - 7:30 am

https://971talk.radio.com/blogs/randy-t ... ent-unique

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By Frank O. Bowman III

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Clearly biased (plugging his biased book)
High Crimes and Misdemeanors: A History of Impeachment for the Age of Trump



This is just by way of one example... this sort of opinion (stated as fact) is repeated all day long by news hosts and pundits in UK... Sky, BBC, ITV etc.. all as bad as each other
Some counter opinion might get mentioned in passing... but news items far from "balanced"

These Anti- Trump leftists apparently have no concept of Justice, nor what the reaction may be from 63 million Trump voters?

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Eric Ciaramella Named in Impeachment Testimony
November 6, 2019 by James Sweet III

Eric Ciaramella, the alleged whistleblower of Donald Trump’s Ukraine phonecall, was mentioned in Ambassador William Taylor’s testimony. The testimony occurred on October 22, while the RealClearInvestigations article on Eric Ciaramella that was widely circulated by Republican figures was published on October 30. The transcript of the testimony, which occurred behind-closed-doors, was released Wednesday as part of the Democratic Party’s effort to make the impeachment inquiry more transparent.

During the testimony, House Oversight Committee investigator Steve Castor questioned Ambassador Taylor about the whistleblower report. Castor then asked, “Does a person by the name of Eric Ciaramella ring a bell for you?”

Taylor replied, “It doesn’t.” When asked if he “never had any communications with somebody by that name,” the ambassador said, “Correct.”

The exchange occurred on page 236 of Ambassador Taylor’s testimony transcript.

Eric Ciaramella was never mentioned again throughout the testimony. His name was not redacted in the testimony, which contradicts the RealClearInvestigations report on him.

    Fearing their anonymous witness could be exposed, Democrats this week blocked Republicans from asking more questions about him and intend to redact his name from all deposition transcripts.


However, it is consistent with The Washington Post article that claims Republicans “have repeatedly raised the name of a person suspected of filing the whistleblower complaint.”


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The guys at the Duran made a good point...

A "whistle-blower" at the very least, needs to be revealing stuff about the organization/department they work in.

Eric Ciaramella works for CIA... his info is NOT in regards to anything the CIA is doing..

It is in fact about Trump.. actually about CLASSIFIED conversation between POTUS and anther head of state. It is closer to SPYING and then LEAKING classified info. NOT protected as "whistle blower", in fact I would say a SERIOUS CRIME

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Eric Ciaramella - "Whistle Blower"

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The OFTEN posted pics of "Ciaeamella" with Dim leaders may actually be George Soros's son Alexander Soros
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I see a YT playlist.. that has most vids now "private".. but a few still have Ciaramella's name...

CIAramella FAKE whistleblower leaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymoa-6A ... aZIGEsg9vA

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Epic! Mollie Hemingway Leaves Fox News Panel Stunned, Stuttering After She Drops Eric Ciaramella’s Name on Fox News Live Broadcast (VIDEO)

We’re surprised Fox News didn’t bleep out his name because they recently bowed to pressure and vowed not to say the CIA snitch’s name.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/1 ... ast-video/

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Looking for a replay of entire "Media Buzz" show....

MediaBuzz 11/10/19 | Breaking Fox News November 10, 2019
Nov 10, 2019
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America you are looking more and more silly. "The phone call" is fine. Read the transcript. What is a CRIME IMO is people releasing details of POTUS' confidential calls. It is just silly to attribute "impeachable crimes" to a harmless phone conversation. I am sure that past and present Presidents have said a LOT worse on the phone, and in face to face meetings with all sorts of people, including leaders of other countries


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Gone from YT. Fox news do have official full episodes at MediaBuzz page... but latest is last week (November 03, 2019)
We'll see if this episode pops up later?
https://video.foxnews.com/playlist/longform-mediabuzz/

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Congress public hearings are farcical (as expected)

I am not inclined to post many clips...

Here are the opening STAR witnesses..... :roll

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Neither have ever spoken to Trump about anything. Their "evidence" amounts to "hearsay, 3rd hand at best.. and both agree that Ukraine PM had no knowledge of hold up of military aid. The aid WAS RELEASED anyway and there was no investigation of Crooked Joe Biden, and his crooked son, Hunter
:lol

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Shifty Schiff now claiming he does not know the Identity of the "Whistleblower"

That would make him the ONLY PERSON in USA (and the world) that does not know it's ERIC CIARAMELLA.. CIA Agent working for Brennan
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The OFTEN posted pics of "Ciaeamella" with Dim leaders may actually be George Soros's son Alexander Soros
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Also today.. Rand Paul dropped the Whistle-blower" name (Eric Ciaramella)in media interview.. WMAL... not exactly the "Main stream" but it's a start :roll
Have not found a YT of the audio.. yet... maybe YT will still block even Senator Rand Paul?

Rand Paul: Eric Ciaramella Is A Material Witness And Must Testify
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... stify.html

LISTEN: Sen. Rand Paul Called For Alleged Whistleblower Eric Ciaramella To Testify As A Part Of The Impeachment Hearings.
http://www.wmal.com/2019/11/13/listen-s ... -hearings/

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YouTube even removed Judicial Watch video discussing WHITE HOUSE VISITOR LOGS!!
Eric Ciaramella is named.. so hard to know how in hell YT can censor PUBLIC WH logs??

Judicial watch article on the subject is available, But YT REMOVED a video
of Tom Fitton discussing this info. I see a version of the vid is back at YT.. but the name "Eric Ciaramella" is muted.


Judicial Watch: White House Visitor Logs Detail Meetings of Eric Ciaramella

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today analysis of Obama-era White House visitor logs that detail meetings of controversial CIA employee Eric Ciaramella, who had been assigned to the White House. Ciaramella reportedly was detailed to the Obama White House in 2015 and returned to the CIA during the Trump administration in 2017. The logs also reveal Alexandra Chalupa, a contractor hired by the DNC during the 2016 election who coordinated with Ukrainians to investigate President Trump and his former campaign manager Paul Manafort, visited the White House 27 times.

...more at link
https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-rel ... iaramella/



EVERYTHING You Need to Know about the Anti-Trump Coup & the Whistleblower...
Premiered Nov 13, 2019
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NOTE: *WHISTLEBLOWER NAME WAS EDITED OUT BY JUDICIAL WATCH TO AVOID VIDEO BAN!


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So WHERE is the next call transcript?


First Trump-Zelensky Call Barely Resembled Second

Trump said he plans to release a transcript of April conversation, during which he congratulated Ukrainian counterpart for his election victory


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What To Look For Tomorrow

Former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch will testify at tomorrow’s impeachment hearing. Yovanovitch was relieved of her duties by Trump in May after what she characterized in closed-door sessions as a “smear campaign” against her by Rudy Giuliani.

Expect some of the same lifelong-unelected-bureaucrat bloviation and wounded-pride pearl-clutching that was shared in abundance yesterday by Kent and Taylor. In this case, it’s a woman, and she was fired, so she will likely play up the bully angle. Trump and his goon squad ousted me after a lifetime of dedicated service! For shame!

What she won’t mention is how she stood in the way of exposing Joe and Hunter Biden’s reckless plunder of Ukraine.


https://creativedestructionmedia.com/ne ... ranscript/

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Apparently we have shifted to BRIBERY as a Crime...?
Not trump taking bribes, as you would expect with public official charged with "bribary"?
I assume Pelosi is on about Trump bribing Zelensky? ... But not with cash as bribery normally involves?

Pelosi: Trump bribed Ukraine, makes Nixon's offenses 'look almost small'
By Mike Lillis - 11/14/19 11:48 AM EST

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday accused President Trump of "bribery" in his dealings with Ukrainian leaders, linking the president's actions to the Constitution's impeachment clause even while emphasizing that Democrats remain undecided on whether they'll draft impeachment articles.

"That is in the Constitution, attached to the impeachment proceedings," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.

She then explained the basis for the charge, which stems from a whistleblower's complaint that has since been supported by numerous government officials, that Trump leveraged U.S. military aid to Kyiv to secure political favors from Ukrainian leaders.

"The bribe is to grant or withhold military assistance in return for a public statement of a fake investigation into the elections," she said. "That's bribery."

Pelosi declined to say if the bribery charge would become an article of impeachment, insisting Democrats — even as they move ahead with their investigation — have not concluded Trump committed impeachable offenses.

"We haven't even made a decision to impeach," she said. "That's what the inquiry is about. And when the committees decide that, then they will decide what the articles are."

"But I am saying, that what the president has admitted to, and says it's 'perfect,' I said it's perfectly wrong," she added. "It's bribery."

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Trump has had Deep State, and FakeNews Media “Muh Russia” up his wazzoo for 3 years… so,( knowing deep state listen to his calls (and leak), he decides to call up NEW Ukraine guy (that he does not know) and do a bit of “light colluding with Muh Ukraine”?

Yeah… sounds legit!! :lol

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The Deep State...

I think maybe we underestimated the "Deep State".. depth, extent, layers, etc. I doubt we know the full extent even yet, but what we know is bad enough. It hasn't stopped Trump, but it sure has impeded his progress, and as far as I can tell it is still there and will slide back once Trump is gone. I am not sure we can actually define accurately what the Deep state is/is comprised of. It is MORE than senior staff and heads of Intelligence agencies and other government entities. At the very least it includes many of the day to day agents and operatives as well. I think a lot of the caveats "its only the top few, not the guys on the street"... has been VIRTUE SIGNALLING... and WISHFUL THINKING. We would all like to think "The Cops are the good guys"!! Maybe they are when it comes to regular cops.... but the FBI, CIA and others in federal agents include a LOT of DIRTY COPS (like Strzok and Comey, and Brennan and Clapper, and their agents). and it seems this sort of "deep state rot" is aided and even repeated in other Countries who are also heavy with Dirty Cops.

Then there are the elected politicians and their political staff... CROOKED (mostly)... on BOTH SIDES of the aisle!!
Just look at any new guy entering politics... mostly low to moderate income... not too many "skills" outside being a politician (talker) and no experience of real work/business. Look at them when they have been in Congress a few years... STILL no skills or talent, but likely multi-millionaires.

And this is STILL just the tip of the "Deep state" iceberg. They infest media and business, and even the higher echelons of the military (I imagine)

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