It is currently Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:30 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:16 pm
Posts: 1158
Thought you might find this interesting, Rumpy

An international incident sheds light on the trans-Tasman rivalry with New Zealand and the limits of criminalizing speech

December 3, 2012

Excerpt

I happen to enjoy that sort of puzzling, for understanding is never so enjoyable as when it comes with much laughter. And I must admit that I laughed a lot at the following story, found in a copy of The Christchurch Press that I perused while eating my Eggs Benedict in a Greymouth, New Zealand diner. Headlined "Being called Aussie judged 'racist,'" it's one of those stories that juxtaposes the awful with the absurd, so that you feel bad laughing, but can hardly help it as the villain turns from mean-spirited harangues to blowing raspberries. Beyond the ugliness and the amusement, no study of trans-Tasman relations is complete without this case study.

The events take place in Macclesfield, U.K.:


Hurling abuse wasn't the problem for Petra Mills. But a court ruled that calling her New Zealand neighbor an Australian was racist and against the law. Czech-born Mills, 31, has been found guilty of racially aggravated public disorder after a rant at her New Zealand-born neighbor in Macclesfield, south of Manchester. Chelsea O'Reilly, who has dual British and New Zealand citizenship, said: "She called me a stupid fat Australian bitch. Because of my accent there can be some confusion over my nationality. She knew I was from New Zealand. She was trying to be offensive. I was really insulted. She said she would kill my dog. Bizarrely she then blew raspberries at me like a child."

...Two police constables told the court they had heard Mills use the word "Australian" during her drunken rant. At Macclesfield Magistrate Court Mills agreed she had shouted, but denied she was being racist. "I did not use the word 'Australian.' I used to lived with an Australian person. She was very nice."

But chairman of the bench Brian Donohue said: "You were in an emotional and inebriated state. The word 'Australian' was used. It was racially aggravated and the main reason it was used was in hostility."

Mills denied the charge of racially aggravated public disorder but was found guilty and fined 110 pounds. She admitted assaulting a police constable by kicking him in the shin and knee and was fined 200 pounds on that charge. She was also ordered to pay both victims 50 pounds compensation and 500 pound court costs. Mills and her husband moved to Scotland after the incident.

More at link with the story also as how it appeared in the local English paper

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... an/265817/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:27 pm
Posts: 6256
Location: Beautiful South Florida
OMG, so she's a Scot now! Image

(And that's not a racial slur, I worked with a very nice Scottish gent.) Image


:84

_________________
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:25 pm 
Online
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:30 pm
Posts: 50356
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
Thanks Packy. :31

Nah... it's NOT racist to call a NZer "Australian"..... but it is an INSULT!!! :12

A former NZ Prime Minister (Sir Robert Muldoon) wisely quipped:

"When NZers leave to live in Australia (on the dole)... it raises the average IQ of both nations"

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:58 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:16 pm
Posts: 1158
Oh so note to self. Not to insult anyone.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:25 pm
Posts: 414
Rumpole wrote:
Thanks Packy. :31

A former NZ Prime Minister (Sir Robert Muldoon) wisely quipped:

"When NZers leave to live in Australia (on the dole)... it raises the average IQ of both nations"


That is too funny! Thanks for the laugh. :12

_________________
:15­
"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour." Leviticus 19:15


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:58 am
Posts: 73
Location: OZTRAILEYAA
:18




ABSOLUTELY !! :84


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group