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Chose a Flag for New Zealand
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:26 am 
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This sketch is getting silly!!!

Too Silly - Monty Python



Bowing to the daft "Green Party" demonstrates how stupid the NZ political system is.

We have a bunch of loony small parties with far too much influence.. tails wagging dogs!!!

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So confused thought the idea of was a process of elimination not creating more choices. Does this mean a new poll with best of five winning now?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:01 am 
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The official referendum will now be 5 choices...

The poll here... I wont bother :roll

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:27 pm 
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The daft Game continues.
Govt ad campaign to remind people that they should receive voting papers.. but they are not due until 20November.. so IMO the ads are premature :roll

As discussed.. a silly "ranking" vote 1 -5 (most - least favored)

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Is the flag poll is separate from other ballot processes? Did the fifth option cause them to reprint the ballots being mailed?

An AD campaign 30 days before the vote seems reasonable especially if it's a separate process because people have a way of ditching govt info mailings.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:36 pm 
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My theory is its best to keep elections and referendums SECRET from stupid people. :roll

If they are so stupid as to not know about the Flag debate.. then as uninformed morons it's best they dont vote!!

Gnomesayin? :cool

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Ideally they knew before ballot showed up in mail or advertisements to give it a bit of thought and consideration before speaking via casting their poll choice. Reality is that many cast their votes without a moments consideration before the deed.


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New Zealand flag: What do school kids think of new designs?
November 20, 2015

(cute .. and smart kiddos, love the accents)

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34865402


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WOOO HOOO.... I got my voting papers in the mail :91

Shame the kids are grown up and gone... I used to let them fill out my vote in local elections etc... :cool

UNBELIEVABLY.. the instructions (how to tick a box) are in TWENTY FIVE LANGUAGES (plus English makes 26 in all) :wall

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I am SHOCKED!! SHOCKED I tell ya..... WHERE, pray tell, is the Braille version for the sight-impaired folk?

WHERE is the version in Latin aimed at Cloistered Monks? Eh....?? :95

"Veni, vidi, referi!"

"I came, I saw.... I kicked ass on the flag vote!!"

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PC gone wild!!

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And... I just noticed..

No Bahasa Melayu (or Indonesian, which is similar)

ALL joking aside.. IF the powers that be want to PANDER to (non-existent) minorities.. then why NOT Malaysian? I KNOW there are Malay (and Singapore) born people living in NZ. As far back as the 60's when I was in school we had Malaysian (and Singaporean) exchange school kids.. and I met several Malay (and Singaporean) students studying at Auckland University. A close friend of mine MARRIED a Malaysian girl and I mixed socially with her and her friends in NZ.

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Rumpole version would be....

Can't figure this simple form out (in English)? Then don't fucking bother to vote!! Capiche? :cool

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LIVE: New Zealand Flag referendum result
Last updated 20:41, December 11 2015

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Silver Fern (Black,White & Blue) by Kyle Lockwood has been announced as the referendum winner

This is the alternative flag design which will go head-to-head with New Zealand's current flag in the referendum on change, in March 2016.

The preliminary result of the first flag referendum has just been announced as Silver Fern (Black, White and Blue). You can follow the reactions to the result in our live coverage below.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-fla ... dum-result

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:23 am 
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Results:

SILVER FERN (BLACK, WHITE AND BLUE) by Kyle Lockwood - Progressive Total Votes: 662,160 (winner)

SILVER FERN (RED, WHITE AND BLUE) by Kyle Lockwood - Progressive Total Votes: 648,295 (excluded after fourth count)

RED PEAK by Aaron Dustin - Progressive Total Votes: 146,358 (excluded after third count)

SILVER FERN (BLACK AND WHITE) by Alofi Kanter - Progressive Total Votes: 97,164 (excluded after second count)

KORU by Andrew Fyfe - Progressive Total Votes: 51,879 (excluded after first count)

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Next... we have a referendum with option of NEW (crap) design.. or keep the old flag.... I'll be voting to keep the old flag

March 2016

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As I predicted ......:cool


The vote count/analysis was a farce... the choice that gained most votes WAS the one I picked (the one with no black in it) but the idiots in charge of voting went on to analyze people's second, third, forth and fifth choice before selecting what they decreed "the winner"... This is ridiculous.. as anybody with half an idea of statistical analysis will tell you... any competent psychology student studying experimental design and analysis would see the flaw. As I pointed out with the example of color choice resulting in "yellow" as a winner.. even though NOBODY picked it as first choice... we now have the equivalent of a "yellow" choice... a flag that was NOT the first choice of the majority... just a flag that a lot of people had as second, 3rd or 4th or even 5th choice...

Rumpole's tip: "NEVER give people opportunity to pick a second, third 4th or 5th alternative."

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TIME TO VOTE

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Postal Referendum

My Wife and I BOTH voted to KEEP THE OLD FLAG :cool :cool

Voting closes 24th March..... Results? some time after that

What a complete farce..... :59


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The results of both referendums will be binding, meaning the flag with the most votes in the second referendum will be the official flag of New Zealand. In the unlikely event of a tied vote, an assumption for the status quo will apply and the current flag will prevail.

If a new flag design is chosen, assuming no intellectual property issues and the referendum's results are not ruled void, the Flags, Emblems and Names Protection Act 1981 would be updated to reflect the new design six months to the day after the second referendum results are declared (or earlier by Order in Council). The current flag would remain the official flag until then; for example, the current flag would be flown during the 2016 Summer Olympics, four months after the second referendum is planned to take place, regardless of the results of the second referendum. This result would not change the coat of arms (which includes the current national flag), national Maori flag, nor the flags of Associated States (Cook Islands and Niue), nor the New Zealand Red Ensign (merchant marine), White Ensign (naval), police flag and fire service flag (which are based on the current flag). It would also not change New Zealand's status as a constitutional monarchy in the Commonwealth of Nations.

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Protester's attempt to sell flag referendum vote on Trade Me fails
Last updated 21:33, March 5 201

A Trade Me user who was disgruntled with the flag referendum tried selling their vote.
    "To protest the millions of dollars spent on the Flag Consideration Project, I am selling my NZ flag referendum vote," the seller wrote on the auction ad.
    "The winning bidder will decide which flag I vote for."

The seller said auction profit would go to a charity that could have benefited "from the money needlessly spent on the Flag Consideration Project".

In response to a question on the site about the auction's legality, the seller responded by asking how "collecting money for charity" could be illegal.

Come Friday evening, the ad was gone, with a message saying an "administrator" had withdrawn it.

Trade Me spokesman Paul Ford said the "protest listing" had attracted members' complaints "pretty quickly".

"Once it was drawn to our attention, our Policing team removed it from Trade Me.

...more at link

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7757768 ... e-me-fails

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I thought you might enjoy this. It starts off topic, but then has an idea for a new flag. ;)



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THX Mal :give

I fleetingly saw the "news" when it happened.... but it really did need the full treatment with choir and all

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