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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:00 pm 
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At JQ it was a perfect case.... somebody to HATE.

They screamed that they just wanted an arrest.... then jail in good ole USA where the inmates could dispense "Justice"

They were convinced he would be brutalised, raped, and murdered.. and they looked forward to that.

(Apparently the most evil vile convicted criminals become JQ members once in prison... the enforcement arm of JQ.)

It's a great system for JQ peeps... you don't need ebidents and stuff like that. Just know the person is guilty and get "your guys" in prison to carry out your sentencing.

It is interesting to note: Joran was a 17 year old school boy when Natalee went missing... seems the "17 means child" rule does not apply to Dutch guys.

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Rumpole, he was a 17 year old White privledged kid, with a Judge as a father. He was guilty by way of birth.


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The lack of evidence was always overlooked, he was pronounced as guilty, regardless. I was living in GA at the time, and some of the local coverage did cover the problems between Natalie and Beth, none of it made the national media, though. A lot of similarities in the coverage of this and Zimmerman's case.



I am local, and no one was allowed to breathe a word against Beth, or tell the truth about "poor sweet Natalie". My friend's daughter was actually offered a bribe, in the form of money for college from Beth (as were many of Natalie's friends) to not say anything "bad" (as in tell the truth) about Natalie.

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Murder Conspiracy against Joran Van der Sloot
March 17

Joran van der Sloot was apparently threatened with death in the Peruvian prison where he is detained. His lawyer Maximo Altez has triggered an alarm at the Dutch embassy in Lima over a possible assassination plot against the Dutchman.

It is suspected that money would have been for Van der Sloot’s killing. The lawyer did not say who would be behind the plot or if the threats are related to the case for which Van der Sloot was inprisoned, i.e. the murder of Stephany Flores.

Van der Sloot would have been taken out of his cell on Friday night at 11 p.m. and moved to another part of the Piedras Gordas prison following the death threats. According to Altez, that section of the prison accommodates Peru’s most dangerous criminals who are likely to kill Joran “for a little money”.

In that section ("Pabellon 10"), Van der Sloot was seriously threatened with death, said his Peruvian girlfriend Leidy. Joran telephoned her and asked her to take quick contact with his lawyer.

"Yesterday there was nothing wrong, I just visited him. I had contact with Joran and he was desperate. He did not know what to do," said Leidy. It is unclear also to her what exactly is going on. She is very worried about the fate of Van der Sloot.

Joran van der Sloot was sentenced to 28 years in a Lima jail for the murder of student Stephany Flores two two years ago. He was also associated with the 2005 disappearance of the American citizen Natalee Holloway.

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JQ will be pleased. They like the notion of their "Justice" being meted out and prisoners brutalised, raped and murdered in prison.

I guess the inmates in Peru can be regarded as JQ members... an example of the enforcement branch of JQ working as they want.

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Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW


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03/21/2013 Notice of Continuance (OF CASE ASSIGNMENT BEFORE JUDGE WILLIAM A. MACLAUGHLIN )


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MzDazie wrote:


I am local, and no one was allowed to breathe a word against Beth, or tell the truth about "poor sweet Natalie". My friend's daughter was actually offered a bribe, in the form of money for college from Beth (as were many of Natalie's friends) to not say anything "bad" (as in tell the truth) about Natalie.



So what? It sounds ridiculous but even if it's true, what does that have to do with anything? :roll


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"Wedding Bells for Van Der Sloot in Peru Prison"

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... aktupPD-Tc


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The point is.....


There was NO EVIDENCE OF A CRIME... let alone a link to Joran van Der Sloot "doing it".


The media frenzy that went on hurt the investigation (if anything)

And THAT was at least stirred up, if not created in the first place by Beth Twitty on nightly TV shows like Dr Phil... often telling blatant lies.

As with the GZ case..... the "victim" in Aruba needed to at least be described honestly. Her character may, or well may not, have had relevance.

I STILL think she was taken, or perhaps went willingly (in a drunken state) onto one of the MANY yachts coming and going for the "Soul Beach Annual Music Festival"

In fact it's a no-brainer... yachts coming and going from International waters.. some dubious types perhaps?

It was not an avenue explored thoroughly.. partially because Beth Twitty and her Pose of friends turned up and started demanding LE investigate Van Der Sloot..... I could go on .. but frankly the Aruba case was a complete waste of my effort (then and now)... people remain wilfully ignorant about it. It went nowhere because there was NO EVIDENCE..
For those convinced that Joran did it, despite no evidence of what "it" was... then be happy... karma got him as far as you are concerned.

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Jailed killer Joran Van der Sloot set to marry 22-year-old Peruvian woman to prevent extradition to the U.S. to face charges surrounding disappearance of student

  • Joran van der Sloot is serving 28 years in a Peruvian prison for murdering a local student
  • Now he is set to marry local woman, Leydi Figueroa Uced, who is already his common law partner
  • Marriage would help prevent his extradition to the U.S. where he faces charges surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005


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UPDATED: 21:17 GMT, 31 May 2013

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A Dutchman serving 28 years in a Peruvian prison for murdering a local student, and who is wanted in the U.S. in connection with the disappearance of another woman, is set to marry says his lawyer.

Joran van der Sloot, 26, is currently serving time in a Peruvian prison for the murder of local college student Stephany Flores in 2010.

He is also wanted in the U.S. in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 19, from Alabama, who went missing on a school trip in Aruba in 2005. When Van der Sloot's prison time in Peru is complete, which could be less than ten years away, he faces being extradited to America.

Van der Sloot’s lawyer has confirmed that his client is set to marry 22-year-old Leydi Figueroa Uced, reports The Daily Beast.

She regularly visits Van der Sloot in prison and was last reported to be pregnant with his child, although no reports of the baby’s birth have ever been released.

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Good luck to the future Mrs. Van Der Sloot. I hope she doesn't wind up regretting it (or getting killed like Stephany).

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Jeralyn wrote:
U.S. Won't Be Getting Joran Van der Sloot Any Time Soon

An appeals court in Peru has upheld the 28 year sentence of Joran Van der Sloot for homicide and simple theft pertaining to the murder of Stephany Flores. Van der Sloot's attorney, Maximo Altez, had sought a lower sentence.

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SINCE I got accused of being a supporter of Joran Van Der Sloot and even BEING Joran posting at JQ... I actually am PLEASED that he might avoid facing the hysterical Lynch Mob in USA.

Let me state.. he is a murdering scum-bag (now) who was correctly found guilty in Peru

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As far as the Natalee Holloway DISAPPEARANCE goes... there was NO EVIDENCE OF A CRIME let alone evidence linking Joran to whatever happened to her. He was a victim of the usual lynch mob at JQ (and elsewhere). Beth Twitty told lies nightly on all the US crime chat shows, to help fire up most of the nation in support of the lynching of Van Der Sloot.

IMO the extradition and "extortion" charges should NOT succeed... classic entrapment...... AND Beth Twitty went on to team up with Dutch Tabloid journalist Peter De Vries (sp) to turn her description of it into a money-making tabloid doco ... contaminating her own evidence as well as any other witnesses testimony. She further illegally confronted Joran in Castro Castro Prison... another Tabloid money-making venture... this all somewhat stuffs up her ability to be admitted as a witness in any trial for the extortion charges. In fact it could well be argued by any half competent lawyer that the "extortion" was set up by Twitty.... a stunt designed to form the basis of the Money making doco.. certainly it seems that what she wanted was Joran in custody so that she could confront him (once again) over Natalee's disappearance.

So.... I am happy that Joran is doing Time in Peru for the Murder of Stephany Florez...but there is STILL no evidence of a crime in the Natalee Holloway case, and the "extortion" was a set-up orchestrated by Beth Twitty... she should feel huge GUILT that she intentionally bank-rolled Joran.. and ENSURED he got away from Aruba (that was part of the deal). If not for her, he would NOT have been on a gambling spree in Peru... Stephany Florez would still be alive.

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I have always thought Natalie's disappearance was associated with the Music Festival and people going back and forth on boats. A canoe or a yacht.
Joran would be thrilled to get out of Peru and come to America.


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THAT is my thought too Cherpa :give

It is speculation... and needed to be investigated more. Hysterical Beth was largely responsible for it NOT being investigated properly since she arrived with a posse of friends to demand action on Joran... The US media dogs were close behind pouring petrol on the flames with nightly LIVE reports from Aruba.

The festival you speak of is the annual "Soul Beach Music Festival" It was in full swing the weekend that Natalee went missing.
It attracts Yachts and visitors from International locations. Boats that come and go from International waters that can not be totally scrutinised at the best of times (there is a history of drug transportation)... It is certainly impossible to inspect every boat that comes an goes around the music festival.

What we DO KNOW is that Joran and Natalee were on the beach in the early hours of the morning. She was VERY drunk. I think he left her there. Not a "nice thing" to do... but not a crime. He probably had little choice if she refused to leave? Understandable that he would eventually give up and leave her there when the Kalpoes arrived to give him a lift home. His initial Lie about taking her back to her hotel was quite likely him not wanting to be seen to have left her (keep in mind he was a 17 year old school boy at the time). I think she went on board, or was taken on board a Yacht... and who know what next... then thrown overboard miles away from Aruba.

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Natalee Holloway's mother sues National Enquirer
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June 20, 2012

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Natalee Holloway's mother today filed a federal lawsuit against the National Enquirer, claiming the publication published "false headlines, articles and statements" about the Mountain Brook teen's 2005 disappearance in Aruba.

In the filing, Beth Holloway also claims the tabloid magazine and its owner, American Media, Inc., invaded her privacy in an attempt to "profit off the tragic and still unresolved disappearance."

"Defendants' conduct in publishing these false statements and accompanying photographs has been so outrageous in character and so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency, and is to be regarded as atrocious, and utterly intolerable," the suit continued.

The suit seeks unspecified damages.

A spokesperson for AMI said the company was "aware generally of the claims and there is no merit to them."

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National Enquirer seeks dismissal of lawsuit filed by Natalee Holloway's mother
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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - The National Enquirer has asked a federal magistrate judge in Birmingham to dismiss a lawsuit filed last year against the tabloid by the mother of Natalee Holloway, the Mountain Brook teen whose disappearance on a 2005 trip to Aruba triggered international headlines.

Attorneys for the National Enquirer declined comment regarding the lawsuit, or their quest to have it tossed out, after a case status conference with U.S. Magistrate Judge T. Michael Putnam this morning in the judge's office at the Hugo L. Black U.S. Courthouse in Birmingham.


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Natalee Holloway's mother settles lawsuit with National Enquirer
Kent Faulk
August 06, 2013

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - The mother of Natalee Holloway, the Mountain Brook teen whose disappearance on a 2005 trip to Aruba triggered years of international headlines, has reached a settlement in a lawsuit against the National Enquirer, according to an order filed by a federal magistrate judge in Birmingham.

U.S. Magistrate Judge T. Michael Putnam issued an order of dismissal in the case last week. In that order the judge states that both sides had notified him that they had reached a settlement on all claims and they are awaiting the completion of the settlement agreement.

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Chutzpah much from Beth Twitty

At the time of Natalee's disappearance she was on every US cable "news" show nightly... repeating false information... generating sensational headlines herself, and of course later she teamed up with Dutch Sensational Tabloid "Journalist" Peter DeVries to make "Tabloid" TV shows (pseudo documentaries) , including her infamous illegal confrontation of Joran in Castro Castro prison.

If anybody should be sued over sensationalising The Holloway disappearance... it is Beth Twitty!

From the article:
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The National Enquirer's motion last week to dismiss states that Beth Holloway "spoke frequently, and in detail, through scores of media outlets about the circumstances of Natalee's likely death at the hands of Joran Van der Sloot, the multiple, widely circulated theories about the whereabouts of her body, and developments in the investigation."

"Indeed, Ms. Holloway ultimately became something of an authority on the fate of other missing children, starring in an internationally distributed cable television series, "Vanished with Beth Holloway", in which she reported in detail, often through re-enactments, on the disappearance and possible death of other children," the National Enquirer's motion states.

The motion for summary judgment states that "given the undisputed context in which AMI's publications actually occurred, no reasonable jury could find that they constitute the kind of extreme conduct encompassed by the sharply limited tort of outrage recognized under Alabama law."

In June attorneys for America Media and the National Enquirer also had responded to Beth Holloway's lawsuit, denying Holloway's claims and stating that they are protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and similar provisions under Alabama's Constitution.

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Aruba is not Florida - the evidence wasn't made public. We'll never know what happened. But I don't think it's fair to say there is zero evidence unless the case files and evidence gathered at the time are made public. There was some reason Aruban LE had for suspecting and jailing a judge's son for a very lengthy detention, along with two of his friends. Maybe it was just to please the tourists - but without seeing the actual evidence, we can't be sure.

You did raise a good point, Rumpole - at 17, JvdS was even bigger than TM™, iirc. Isn't he like 6'3" or 4"? And looks heavier. Yet one is a child and one is a grown man, depending on where one sits.

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