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Rumpole wrote:
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And dogs!!
Dogs, like people, come in degrees of competence and experience. In court cases (such as Casey Anthony) a dogs training/experience/success rate is scrutinized. I heard mention of 2 local dogs. How good are they? How many live people/dead bodies have they found? There were possessions (blankie) of Deorr there...so no scent at camp site is just not true. No trail? Could be reasons for that. Lots of extraneous (human and natural) smells around a camp site. And body in fast moving water likely leaves no scent trail.
Well, Rump, there were many dogs from different organizations and towns. I believe there were initially tracking dogs, then air scent dogs, and also cadaver dogs, but I'll check to make sure which dogs were there. The two local dogs were the first dogs on the scene. The sheriff said that with their track record, they should have found the boy.
Being skeptical about the parents, as I am, we only have their word that the blankie and the other items were the originals that belonged to the child. In fact, the dad made a point of saying they were the originals (in a kind of odd way - he actually said they were replicas, but I think he meant to say they weren't replicas). I wondered why he found it necessary to point that out. Did he think we wouldn't believe him? I know my theories may seem far fetched, but who really knows what to think with such little to go on.
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Rumpole wrote:
I get what you are saying suzet, and I agree we dont know what GGD and Reinwand have told police, but......
I do think cops would have ENSURED that GGP and Reinwand actually SAW Deorr at the camp. I could be wrong. It is a simple and important point to clarify. IIRC The parents in interview talk of GGD saying he SAW Deorr go after parents parents.
I do not take everything the parents say as the truth. So if they say GGrandpa said he saw the boy, it doesn't carry much, if any, weight with me. We haven't heard GGrandpa say that he saw the child at camp and all we got out of Reinwand was "mmm hmmm." Was he even listening to the question?
I don't think LE would think it was a big deal if Reinwand didn't see the child at camp. Reinwand, according to rumor, said he was fishing. If he tied one on the night before, (we all saw that video, right?) he could have been passed out in his tent all morning and that is if we believe GGrandfather and Reinwand arrived on Thursday and not Friday. No one ever said exactly what day they arrived. Sheriff said "the family" arrived on Thursday night. The family could have been just the parents and the child and not the two male campers.
Or let's say the two male campers saw little Deorr on Thursday night, but never saw him on Friday and just assumed he was there on Friday. I know this sounds far fetched to you, Rump, but the difference between us is that you believe the parents and I don't, but I do enjoy and appreciate hearing everyone's theories.
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Rumpole wrote:
Listening to parents... their story would NOT hold up unless GGD was at least in some agreement. I am sure cops would be on to something so basic.
DK snr:
"He was playing with Grandpa"
"GGD said ... he came up to you"
I just think Cops would have ensured that GGD and IR actually confirmed that Deorr was at the camp.
Maybe the cops
are onto something. Maybe that's why no one has ever heard anything straight from GGD's own mouth. Lots of "he said" and hearsay, but nothing else.
Also, I think Deorr sr, father of the little boy, could have used his own words to describe what the GGrandfather said when Deorr sr asked him where little Deorr was, not the exact words the GGrandfather used when asked where little Deorr was, when the couple came back from exploring. Maybe he didn't say it exactly as the dad said he did. Maybe it didn't happen that way at all. Sorry, that doesn't make much sense. I'm having trouble putting it into words. There is a reason, imo, we have never heard one single word from the GGrandfather. They didn't even name him in the press until 6 weeks after the child went missing. That is just nuts, imo. He was supposedly one of the last people to see the little boy alive and we didn't even know his name all that time?