Chism Verdict Chits......
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Chism Verdict Chits......
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
I reckon I could "deliberate" while filling out the forms and playing with the pencils... take me a minute... TOPS!! |
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| Author: | Molly [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
ARMED ROBBERY (underwear) Are you kidding me?  I thought the armed robbery was her credit card. 
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
The way I see it...... There is no strict LEGAL definition of ""continuous event", as there is often no strict legal definition for things Juries have to consider.. That is the WHOLE POINT of a Jury system... a "human" input... not some sort of computer program based on every term rigidly defined. So... this Jury has a "free hand" to see this as a continuous event or not.. it is their decision alone.. not subject to appeals or over-riding by learned Judges etc.... Nobody KNOWS if Colleen was dead, nearly dead, or alive and possibly with a chance to survive the injuries up to that point in time... when Chism got her to the woods... and it should not matter... HE certainly could not know himself even ( for sure). The rape in the woods was CERTAINLY all part of a continuous act of barbarism in my mind.. it matters not at which precise point she was "dead".... We have seen that even Medical experts can disagree on what "dead" strictly means. Who is to say at which point medical intervention could have rescued Colleen... at least to the point of survival in hospital on some sort of heart-lung machine.. assisted breathing etc. It is a silly point to argue in this case anyway. The point is.... during a single act of barbarism... Chism did all the stuff that we can see was done to Colleen. Hypothetically .... if Chism had done all that he did up to point of just abandoning Colleen in the woods... dead for minutes, or near dead, or quite alive.. and she had succumbed to her injuries.. then some other POS had come along and violated her dead body.... THAT would be an "after death" violation.. (and it seems not subject to any law in Massachusetts??) I put it to you that what Chism did in the woods is a TOTALLY different scenario to some other person coming along in the woods.. and on that basis Chism is culpable for the entire Continuous event.. from bathroom though all he did in the woods... no matter exactly which point in time Death COULD have been declared ( by a Dr) |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Molly wrote: ARMED ROBBERY (underwear) Are you kidding me? I thought the armed robbery was her credit card. TRY and keep up Molly!!!!  There was a bit of a conflab.. ongoing... about credit card theft.. was it actually armed robbery?... and they announced all charges relating to credit card would be dropped. It was penciled in as armed robbery.. but I Guess it did not quite fit.. for instance.... it could have been taken off her after death etc... so they "let it go" and announced that before closing arguments ( I think) |
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| Author: | Molly [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Ok, thanks.  I missed that entire ordeal. Well, the Armed Robbery of underwear is the silliest thing I have ever heard of. They could have left that off IMO. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Nah.. I think it can be sentence of LIFE!!! The more the merrier.. running CONSECUTIVELY... |
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| Author: | Molly [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Verdict is IN! |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Snap!! BREAKING: Jury has reached a verdict in the murder trial of #PhilipChism. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
WHERE is the friggin Live Stream?? 
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Here ya go... http://www.courtchatter.com/#!philip-ch ... m-1-/c1wff |
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| Author: | Molly [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
This is up http://www.wcvb.com/news/newscenter-5-breaking-news/26098608 |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
No Jury present.....Judge gives general instructions about maintaining "Decorum" Then court adjourned to "set up for the jury" |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Charges against #PhilipChism: 1st degree murder; 2 counts aggravated rape; armed robbery. He's charged as an adult for murder. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
8 men and 4 women..... |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
I got the hear GUILTY of 1st Degree murder.. both pre-meditated and aggravated  Then Computer Froze for rest Chis showed no reaction to verdict... 
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Julie Manganis DA wants to sentence as soon as humanly possible. Defense wants to have time to brief court on sentencing. #PhilipChism allison manning ADA MacDougall is getting visibly frustrated, audibly sighs, when defense asks for time to review PSI, prepare for sentencing. #PhilipChism Give it a rest Frump... get ready for his NEXT trial. |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
Next date for #PhilipChism trial: 12/22 for pre-sentencing conference. Chism not required to be here for it. #fox25 |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
#PhilipChism GUILTY 1ST degree murder, 1 count of aggravated rape (in the school) & armed robbery NOT GUILTY of 2nd count rape in woods #wbz |
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| Author: | Rumpole [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Philip Chism - Rape & murder his teacher, Colleen Ritzer |
10:30 am, December 22nd for Hearing.. Sentencing conference |
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