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I found this interview very informative of the Iranian mindset….

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Death Toll flight PS752

167 passengers and nine crew members

82 Iranians
63 Canadians
11 Ukrainians
10 Swedish
4 Afghan
3 German
3 British

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_I ... s_and_crew

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Also another 56 (or more) dead in Stampede at Soleimani funeral

State-run Iranian broadcaster IRINN reported 35 men and 21 women died, and another 213 people were injured, at the funeral procession for Qasem Soleimani in his hometown of Kerman.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/07/midd ... index.html



including 81 women and 15 children. 147 of these passengers were Iranian

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Iranian Missile System Shot Down Ukraine Flight, Probably by Mistake, Sources Say
By Naveed Jamali , James LaPorta , Chantal Da Silva AND Tom O'Connor On 1/9/20 at 11:00 AM EST

The Ukrainian flight that crashed just outside the Iranian capital of Tehran was struck by an anti-aircraft missile system, a Pentagon official, a senior U.S. intelligence official and an Iraqi intelligence official told Newsweek. None of the officials was authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, a Boeing 737–800 en route from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airpot to Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport, stopped transmitting data Tuesday just minutes after takeoff and not long after Iran launched missiles at military bases housing U.S. and allied forces in neighboring Iraq. The aircraft is believed to have been struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, known to NATO as Gauntlet, the three officials told Newsweek.

One Pentagon and one U.S. senior intelligence official told Newsweek that the Pentagon's assessment is that the incident was accidental. Iran's anti-aircraft systems were likely active following the country's missile attack, which came in response to the U.S. killing last week of Revolutionary Guard Quds Force commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, sources said.

"Well, I have my suspicions," President Donald Trump told reporters at the White House following Newsweek's report. "It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood and someone could have made a mistake."

U.S. Central Command declined to comment on the matter when contacted by Newsweek. The National Security Council and the State Department have not yet responded.

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Even Justin Socks is awake (partially)....

Trudeau: Canada believes Flight PS752 was shot down by Iran
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Three Republicans voted yes on the War Powers resolution

The House of Representatives on Thursday approved the Iran War Powers resolution -- an effort to restrain President Donald Trump's ability to use military action against Iran without congressional approval -- with the support of three Republicans.
Republicans Reps. Matt Gaetz and Francis Rooney of Florida as well as Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky all crossed party lines to vote in favor of the resolution.
The measure, which passed by a nearly party line vote of 224-194 on Thursday evening, will next go to the Senate.

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I am VERY disappointed in Matt Gaetz.
I would listen to arguments around Congress needing to debate a declaration of war..... but not in these circumstances... and not THIS RESOLUTION.. which is just a Radical Democrat STUNT... designed to damage Trump... make him look weaker to the Mullahs in Iran.

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SA-15 (Tor M-1) Surface to Air Missile system. Boeing 737-800 down in Iran
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I think “accident” misses the point.
This air defense system is near a commercial airport. They have to be able to distinguish “targets” that are normal passenger planes. If the equipment (or the operators) are not capable of that, then they should CLOSE THE AIRPORT when the defense batteries are active. I would have thought that would be done that night especially, since they were “begging to be attacked” that night, after attacking Bases in Iraq??

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TEHRAN, IRNA - The Armed Forces General Staff has issued a statement on the crash of the Ukrainian Airlines plane.

https://www.irna.ir/news/83628809/

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In a statement issued by the Armed Forces General Staff regarding the crash of the Ukrainian Airlines:

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The noble and revolutionary nation of Islamic Iran;
In the wake of the heartbreaking crash of a Boeing 1 Ukrainian Airlines plane crash on Wednesday morning amid a missile attack on the US criminal base and the possible impact of military action on the incident, the Armed Forces General Staff immediately investigated This possibility led to the establishment of an inspection team of technical and operational experts, independent of the State Airlines, whose results are circulated to the Honorable Nation of Iran:
2- Following the threats of the President and the military commanders of the criminal US to target a large number of targets in the territory of the Islamic Republic of Iran in the event of a counter-operation and in view of the unprecedented increase in air traffic in the region, the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran They were placed at the highest level of preparedness for possible threats.
3. In the hours after the missile strikes, US terrorist forces' warfare around the country increased, and some reports of air strikes targeting strategic centers in the country were reported to numerous defense units and targets on some radar sites. Caused greater sensitivity in air defense complexes.
2- In such critical and critical conditions, Flight 3 of the Ukrainian Airlines departs from Imam Khomeini Airport and, while in rotation, is completely approaching a sensitive military center of the IRGC and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight. In these circumstances, the plane was accidentally hit by human error and unfortunately, which unfortunately results in the martyrdom of dear compatriots and the death of a number of foreign nationals.
4. The Armed Forces General Condolences and Condolences to the Native American Families and the Alleged Deaths of Apostates, and the apology for the human error, giving full assurance that the reform of the operational processes at the Armed Forces level can be repeated. Make such errors impossible and immediately report the culprit to the Armed Forces Judicial Organization in order to deal with any legal errors.
1- It was also announced that the relevant authorities in the IRGC would be present as soon as possible in the national media.

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Tump's to blame...

Because he threatened to fire back... (but didn't) :lol

You can not make this Mullah "logic" up!.. It is exactly what The left is saying in USA (and Canada) :roll

IF the US had planes bombing the place...and Iran were firing air defense missile.. it MIGHT be half an excuse to hit a passenger plane?? But the fact remains that Iran kept the Commercial airport open????? If.. as they say they were "shitting themselves" and expecting US planes... why did they not stop all commercial flights??

What it comes down to is....
Iran leaders (and troops) were is a PANIC over what THEY Imagined Trump would do (which was wrong)?

They were not in any fit state to be operating lethal weapons :roll

The "human error" was by the Mullahs... they should have shut down the airport!!

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From 2015......

Obama Strikes a Deal--With Qassem Suleimani
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Obama likes Suleimani, and admires his work. As the president reportedly told a group of Arab officials in May, the Arabs “need to learn from Iran’s example.”


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ANTI Government protests in Iran...

Trump tweeted support (in Farsi (Persian))

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DANG!
Seems Iranians don't watch CNN or read the Failing NYT, WaPo etc..... they did not get the DIM talking point that #PS752 deaths are TRUMP'S FAULT :roll

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Ode To Qasem Soleimani


“The Moving Finger tweets; and, having tweeted,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”

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(Apologies to Omar Khayyám)

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You made a mistake but this is serious.
# Ukrainian-Ukrainian # PS752

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Pretty different...
Not only size, an "incoming" Cruise would be on a different flight path completely to a commercial plane ascending after recent take off. The Cruise would be traveling at twice the speed as well (plane = 275 knots, Missile = 500 knots)

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I assume the Iranians kept the airport open, and Commercial jets flying as a "Human Shield". To work to make America LESS likely to fire... shame they did NOT heed their own "Shield" :doh

Even MORE reason to hold them culpable. At the very least they should have been taking EXTRA care to identify targets.. especially large planes rising up from the direction of the airport.. it's not "rocket Science" :cool

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