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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:09 pm 
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Turkey military coup: tanks open fire near parliament building – live updates

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:48 pm 
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Reports Coup has failed.... and it does look like crowds confronting military.. military not prepared to shoot them and so Military dont look to have any control. But.. where is Erdogan??

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:07 pm 
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From CTH.....

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July 15, 2016 at 9:02 pm

Coup d’etat 101

Must do within the first hour

Seize the top leaders capable of defeating the coup. Failing that, have them holed up with no communications, under siege. Kill them if necessary.

Turkey: President, Prime Minister, Cabinet Ministers, and any leader of the Armed Forces that is not in on the coup.

July 15 Turkey score:

FAIL. No effort made to seize President, Prime Minister. Army Chief arrested not enough.

Incredibly, no effort made to arrest President, or shoot down his plane once he is airborne. Ditto for PM and Cabinet.

No effort made to jam communications. (Lesson from Yeltsin’s facing down the coup 1991). Yeltsin was able to call commanders he knew and got their support.

First few minutes:

Shut down all communications including airports, land, sea borders, not just social media like facebook, twitter, but also all internet and voice / wireless traffic in and out of Turkey. TV, Radio stations, cell phones, everything must be stopped. The only communications system that should work is the dedicated network for the plotters. All other military communications to likely opponents of coup in military must be cut.

July 15 Turkey score:

C- Social Media shut, as with TV and Radio mostly, but apparently phones etc. remain online.

Airport shut but other facilities, including communications by the US bases and other installations to the outside world remained on — allowing other groups to know what is going on, and intervene.

First 2 hours

Seize control of symbols of power, including Legislature, Courts, Presidential Palace, and key government buildings, and key police / intelligence installations.

Post seizure, troops must be prepared to defeat crowds — ideally with non-lethal weapons like fire hoses, riot control gases, etc.

July 15 Turkey Score: C- Only a few key points seized, no effort made to deal with anti coup civilians attacking troops.

First 4 hours

Special case for Turkey, Iran, and elsewhere in middle east.

All Mosques must be seized, mullahs arrested, and temporarily closed to prevent them from being a rallying point. (The lesson from Iranian revolution against Shah).

July 15 Turkey Score: FAIL No effort made.

Based on this assessment, likelihood of success low.

Turkey coup plotters are turkeys who can’t even pull off something routinely done in Egypt.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:30 pm 
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Looks like fake Coup.... Erdogan solidifying his own power?

Crowd gathers to greet president
NTV television is now showing footage of large crowds gathering at Istanbul’s Ataturk Airport to greet President Recep Tayyip Erdogan as he emerges from a vehicle upon landing, the Associated Press reports.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:41 pm 
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Telegraph Live Blog

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... 60716-0010

Turkey coup: Erdogan vows to 'cleanse the army' as he returns but 17 police killed in Ankara and at least two dead in violent Istanbul protests

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1,000s Turkish forces surround NATO’s Incirlik air base for ‘inspection’ amid rumors of coup attempt
By RT | July 31, 2016 00:24


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A military aircraft is pictured on the runway at Incirlik Air Base, in the outskirts of the city of Adana, southeastern Turkey. © Stringer / AFP

Some 7,000 armed police with heavy vehicles have surrounded and blocked the Incirlik air base in Adana used by NATO forces, already restricted in the aftermath of a failed coup. Unconfirmed reports say troops were sent to deal with a new coup attempt.

More at link: https://www.rt.com/news/354042-turkish- ... nato-coup/


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:30 pm 
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There MAY be nothing to the above story. Seems the US Joint Chief of Staff will be arriving at the base tomorrow and RT is allegedly reporting propaganda. I guess I'm a bit jumpy after watching 13 Hours yesterday.

The prep activity seems excessive to me. I keep thinking about Obama arriving in Cuba and no one there to greet him.


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