It seems that the UKIP Leadership/NEC clusterfuck continues....


Filings at Companies House:



UNITED KINGDOM INDEPENDENCE PARTY LIMITED
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UKIP Leader Richard Braine Challenges the NEC to a Vote of No Confidence
Premiered Oct 21, 2019
UKIP

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GERARD BATTEN: UKIP Needs An EGM To Vote The NEC Out Of Office!
by Gerard Batten · Published 1:00 pm, October 23, 2019 · Updated 12:49 pm, October 23, 2019

UKIP’s Chairman and NEC are now running the Party like some kind of tin-pot dictatorship. They are suspending the memberships of hardworking and loyal members left, right, and centre, bumping them off like some kind of comic opera Papa Doc Duvalier and his Tonton Macoute henchmen.

They plan to gerrymander the imminent NEC elections so that only their preferred candidates are allowed to stand. We have had the absurd spectacle of the Chairman (appointed by the Leader) presuming to ‘suspend’ the membership of the Leader. His sole crime seems to consist of wanting to run the Party according to the mandate he was elected on in August.

The Chairman and the NEC have hijacked the Party. Our Leader is even prevented from communicating with his own members. If the NEC want to get rid of the Leader then why don’t they just hold a vote of no confidence in him?

The answer is simple: because that would mean an Extraordinary General Meeting of the members. The outcome of that is entirely predictable: the Leader would win and the NEC would have to resign.

...more at link
https://kippercentral.com/2019/10/23/ge ... of-office/

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Brexit news latest: Boris Johnson's cabinet 'split' over call for snap election if EU grants delay
Sean Morrison
1 hour ago



Boris Johnson’s cabinet appears to be divided over whether to push for an election if the EU allows a delay to Brexit or instead press ahead with trying to get the Withdrawal Agreement Bill through Parliament.

The Prime Minister has warned he will push for a snap election if he is forced to accept a lengthy delay to Britain's departure, potentially into next year.

Downing Street has dismissed that there are signs of divisions among ministers and senior Number 10 advisers over whether Mr Johnson should make such a move.

Dominic Cummings, Mr Johnson's chief adviser, is reportedly leading calls to abandon attempts to get the Prime Minister's Brexit plans through Parliament and go for an election.

...more at link
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 69446.html

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Boris Johnson throws down the gauntlet to Jeremy Corbyn: PM challenges the Labour leader to face him in a general election on December 12 - and gives MPs just over a WEEK to get Brexit done first

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... n-bid.html

Boris letter to Corbyn




Motion will be put on Monday...

IMHO there is NO WAY that Labour will vote for an election. They are 15% behind in the polls
It requires 2/3 vote in Parliament (430 votes)
IF Boris were to try a "one off vote" requiring simple majority to pass.. it would be amendable.. and Remoaners could add all sorts of shit!!

Corbyn still saying that "No Deal" has to be "off the table" first


I really, really HOPE that UK "crash out" on Thursday

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House of Commons vote on the Queen's Speech, result:

AYES: 310
NOES: 294

Passes

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BrexBox Episode 12: Why Boris' "new" EU treaty is so DANGEROUS!
Oct 25, 2019
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The Batten Brigade
Oct 17, 2019
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UKIP Founding Member Gerard Batten Calls for EGM
Premiered 15 hours ago
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Copies of some comments as I post them at YT..

Following developments today... this is even MORE of a con. "Lets get Brexit done" LOL
PARLIAMENT HAS NOT AGREED TO BORIS DEAL AT ALL (just agreed to move it on to Committee stage). When Labour et al say we want more time to "scrutinise" the deal. They are being disingenuous (LYING).. they want to CHANGE IT in major ways or even vote it DOWN. AT BEST they will pass it WITH AMENDMENTS. For instance, Customs Union, People's vote etc. IT will NOT be acceptable by the parties who made the agreement..


Who knew?........... The UK would END on a Thursday!!
How on earth did you manage to get yourselves into a position where a Foreign power is demanding (with menaces) that you PAY a Billion pounds per month .. "Protection Racket"?


Boris Deal DID NOT GET APPROVAL BY PARLIAMENT. That is a CON Fake News!!!!
Parliament merely agreed to committee stage where they Absolutely plan to CHANGE THE DEAL

It is simply disingenuous (a lie actually) to say that "Parliament has approved the deal"
Parliament have merely agreed to pass the bill to a committee stage... AND AMEND IT.
THERE IS NO WAY they will PASS "the deal" as it is... no matter how long they are given to "scrutinise" it.

"Get Brexit done" is also disingenuous. The "deal" merely triggers a "transition" period. and many more years of negotiations.. not to mention 39 billion penalty and MORE to be levied on the whims of Brussels

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If you only read one thing about Boris Johnson’s deal, make it this.

https://www.thebrexitparty.org/read-this/





I am watching clips of Boris pushing his "Lets get Brexit done"
I am afraid he is "misleading" (if not lying) when he suggests that he will provide the time for Parliament to study his deal, with the implication that Parliament will then vote to pass it. The votes to pass it without amendments are simply not there, and the amendments suggested will destroy the "deal".

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Younger voters might be advised to "phone an older relative" (get a clue). The EEC was set up to compete with UK... to restrict and DAMAGE UK trade. The UK response.. was to BEG to be allowed to join the "European Club", trade block themselves. UK prepared to not only "prostitute themselves" to EEC, but to actually PAY to do it??? It was crazy back then, and it has got more and more crazy

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Nigel Farage Talk of the Week #5 - Death of Brexit?
Premiered 5 hours ago
Nigel Farage



MPs must seize this chance to rethink Boris Johnson's horrifying deal
Nigel Farage
25 October 2019

Letwin and Bercow may have unintentionally saved Brexit
For the time being, I am breathing a sigh of relief. Until Tuesday night it seemed that, without any scrutiny, the prime minister might succeed in pushing through his allegedly “great new deal” to take the UK out of the EU. While I cannot bring myself to thank either of the men who wrecked the PM’s plan - Oliver Letwin and John Bercow - Brexiteers should be grateful that there is now time to rethink.

...more at link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ying-deal/

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PM says Labour rejection of election could delay Brexit until next year

Boris Johnson blames parliament as his attempt to secure a pre-Christmas election looks set to be blocked

Michael Savage and Toby Helm
Sat 26 Oct 2019 22.33 BST

Boris Johnson has said that Brexit might not happen until well into next year as Labour look set to reject his call for a general election before Christmas.

The prime minister – who has effectively accepted that he will fail to honour his “do or die” promise to take the UK out of the EU on Thursday – said he now feared parliament’s actions in blocking Brexit “could take us to 31 January at least”. He added: “My worry is this parliament will just waste the next three months like it’s wasted the last three years.”

Renewing his call for an election, he added: “Parliament cannot hold the country hostage any longer. Millions of businesses and people cannot plan their futures, this paralysis is causing real damage, and the country must move on in 2020.”


...more at link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-election

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Technically, UK is a whore letting themselves be screwed by the EU... but since they don't even get paid for it... I guess they are just a "battered wife"

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EXCLUSIVE: Former UKIP Leader Lord Pearson Resigns From Party
By Staff Writer
Posted on October 27, 2019



UKIP’s last Peer, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, has quit the party. Lord Pearson, who joined UKIP in 2007 and led it through the 2010 General Election, has cited the reasons for his departure. Among them is the decision by the party’s National Executive Committee (NEC) to suspend its Leader, Richard Braine.

Lord Pearson said:

“I am resigning from UKIP because its in-fighting has made it irrelevant in the current Brexit confusion. “Moreover, under its present NEC, it is resisting a national debate about Islamism, which we need urgently.

“If its members and branches succeed in removing the NEC at an EGM, I would reconsider my position. In the meantime, I will sit in the Lords as an Independent Peer, and try to give a voice to the growing anger of our Eurorealist majority with their Parliament, Government, and electoral system.”

Another former UKIP Leader, Gerard Batten, who also opposes UKIP’s NEC, responded to the news:

”Malcolm Pearson has been a visionary Eurosceptic voice for over two decades and is alone in Parliament in raising general concerns about Islam. His position is reflected in the many thousands of ex-UKIP members who are at odds with the destructive agenda of the NEC and their refusal to back UKIP’s democratically elected leader, Richard Braine. “The current battle between the NEC and the members is just like the battle we face in our nation between a Remainer Parliament and a Leave Population. When we get rid of the current NEC we can get back to business.”


...more at link
https://www.politicalite.com/ukip/exclu ... rom-party/

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Lord Pearson Resigns From Party
I think UKIP is done. Gerard Richard, and others need another political vehicle.


After another betrayal on 31st... Brexiteers should unite and form a long queue outside Parliament

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Brexit leak: Document shows EU preparing to grant three-month extension

UK will be able to leave before January 31st, 2020 if deal is approved, document states

The EU is ready to sign off on a Brexit extension to January 31st, 2020 with an option to leave earlier if a deal is ratified, according to a leaked draft of the agreement seen by the Guardian.

Despite objections raised by the French government, a paper to be agreed on Monday circulated among member states suggests the EU will accede to the UK’s request for a further three-month delay.

The UK would be able to leave on the first day of the month after a deal is ratified, according to the paper.

The draft paper suggests a no-deal Brexit on October 31st is off the table as demanded by opposition party leaders as a prerequisite for a general election.

Until there is official sign-off on the agreement, there remains the possibility that the terms could change, but it is the first time firm dates have been written into an official document.

“The period provided for in article 50 (3) TEU as extended by the European council decision (EU) 2019/584 is hereby further extended until 31 January 2020,” the draft agreement says.



The EU is ready to sign off on a Brexit extension to January 31st, 2020 with an option to leave earlier if a deal is ratified, according to a leaked draft of the agreement seen by the Guardian.

Despite objections raised by the French government, a paper to be agreed on Monday circulated among member states suggests the EU will accede to the UK’s request for a further three-month delay.

The UK would be able to leave on the first day of the month after a deal is ratified, according to the paper.

The draft paper suggests a no-deal Brexit on October 31st is off the table as demanded by opposition party leaders as a prerequisite for a general election.

Until there is official sign-off on the agreement, there remains the possibility that the terms could change, but it is the first time firm dates have been written into an official document.

“The period provided for in article 50 (3) TEU as extended by the European council decision (EU) 2019/584 is hereby further extended until 31 January 2020,” the draft agreement says.

“In the event that the parties to that agreement complete their respective ratification procedures and notify the depositary of the completion of these procedures in November 2019, in December 2019 or in January 2020, the withdrawal agreement will enter into into force respectively on [the first of the month of the relevant month]”.

...more at link
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/u ... -1.4064367

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BREXIT is OVER... move on.....SAD!
It is worse than many think. Brexiteers are not only up against REMAINERS they are also thwarted by many on their "own side" who merely pay lip service to leaving. Such people want to merely cancel EU Membership (and any benefits that might have), but retain all the downside of EU rules and restrictions.


I'll say one thing for Ian Blackford... he does a good job of promoting Scottish Independence... he is so horrible, it is easy to judge all Scots as a-holes.. best free of. I hope that many Scottish people cringe when he stands in Parliament in their name.

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Parliament "debating" calling and election right now... it is going to FAIL.

AND... election is still unlikely... and IT WILL NOT HELP. Boris has said he will run on his deal. That will split the LEAVE VOTE at the least... and at best we get Boris (remain mostly) Treaty.

ELECTION VOTE
Aye 299
No 70

The Ayes have it.. but not a 2/3 lead so motion fails under Fixed term Parliament act
(434 MPs - two thirds majority - required in favour for motion to pass)
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They plan to have a one off election motion tomorrow...12 December General Election .... going to be fraught with conditions/amendments

I can NOT see them agreeing to even that.... we'll see

Reese Mogg has just announce the Election Bill planned tomorrow... including notification that they WILL NOT be continuing debate on Boris deal ahead of election. Date of 12th December only date practical (9th would not work)



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LETS MAKE IT CLEAR AND SIMPLE...
Introduce a "UK transition to Clown World" Bill... Amendments expected....ALL AMENDMENTS accepted.. the sillier the better.,... Honk, Honk!

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Parliament live now..

Lots of BLEATING about not carrying on with Committee debate on Boris Deal....
Very RICH... they were NEVER going to pass Boris Deal (as bad as it is already) they just plotted to CHANGE IT... apart from the Government NOT agreeing with likely changes... the EU have NOT AGREED to such changes either

The mere fact that the Opposition are so unhappy... makes this a good move.


I would LIKE this move (an election) if Boris was going to run on a NO DEAL (clean break) Brexit... but that seems very unlikely.


It seems that these Turkeys want to amend even this simple bill.. add all sorts of silly things... like voting age lowered to 16, EU citizens given the vote... expats allowed to vote (no matter how long outside UK) etc etc...

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It is disingenuous for Corbyn to be bleating about time to "scrutinise" Boris's deal. They do NOT want to merely "scrutinise" it, they have announced AMENDMENTS that completely change the deal. It would no longer be valid. That is just MORE DELAY... negotiating. IF Labour want to negotiate a NEW DEAL.. they need to win an election and go do it!


I don't think Boris's deal is Brexit and so an election where he runs on getting his deal is far from ideal... but... we can not carry on with this nonsense. An Election, even on those terms is essential. Amendments to change the date, change UK voting age etc is just silly. The Deal is scrapped this side of an election. No excuse to not have an election.

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