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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:32 pm 
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The Memo.... latest in the "Big Ugly" series

The hysterical mob cries "THIS IS IT!".... (again) :roll

Apparently (maybe) Trump authorized Wray viewing the Memo. Wray and Rosenstein were at the White House after that (Meeting CoS Kelly). Trump will consider submissions before deciding whether to release "The Memo" to the public.
This proper process and deliberation being taken... highlights how SILLY the so called "Schiff Memo" is. Schiff is a liar who speaks false narratives and I am sure his "Memo" is akin to some rabid Libtard Blog post, or a Fake News article. He wont show it to Members in the House... yet wants it given official status.. equivalent to a PROPER Memo :roll
I think the Executive Branch (Trump) have better things to do with their time than read horseshit talking points and lies written by Adam Schiff. He had just as well write an article for the Failing NY Times, or WaPo.... or maybe pop up on Fake News CNN and rant... as he is wont to do :roll

Ya gotta LAUGH at idiots who think (dream) that Trump will "read the Memo aloud" as part of his SOTU speech :roll

SOTU speeches are historic events..... not some sort show to entertain silly hysterical Blog posters :doh

Besides... Trump would be NUTS to infect his long thought out speech content with the latest controversy.... to walk all over the points he will be trying to publicize in speech.

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Memo coming today? .... Maybe.....Maybe Monday! :roll

It has to be said... Jeff Sessions has been in charge of the DoJ (and so the FBI) for OVER A YEAR!!!


TRUMP: "Obama had Holder (then Lynch)... look what I got" :doh

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For those who say "Sessions is biding his time"..... This is all part of a cunning plan.. 3-D chess with white hats playing it so clever that mere mortals miss the point..... :roll

I put it to you that you are "Rationalizing" .. or more exactly you are falling for tortuous speculation fed to you by some Blog poster. There is a PILE OF CRAP in front of you. It looks like crap, it smells like crap... it IS CRAP.. and yet you chose to imagine/are told that it is a CHOCOLATE SOUFFLE :roll

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I happened to see a News Banner describing the Memo as a "GOP RUSSIA MEMO" :doh

Which channel you might ask.... CNN? MSNBC?.... Nope... it was on "Fox News" :wall


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Memo no here now... tomorrow come?
(An allusion to an actual common Asian excuse I encountered "man no here now, tomorrow come")

I see the hysterical Conservative Group-think "fan posters" are STILL happy (ish)... :69

Despite the fact that the memo is STILL not released. :doh

"Big Uglies" are NOT for actually happening...

They are for "Gonna Happen".. :roll

They are for the speculation about what will happen NEXT.. who is a "white hat"... who is a "black hat" etc....

Dreams of Indictments and prison time for bad guys.... Hysterical Conservative posters are DREAMERS TOO :roll

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I wonder if Democrats are aware that they have become a parody of themselves? :eek

ONION parody articles indistinguishable from regular Fake News and Democrat talking points :lol

FBI Warns Republican Memo Could Undermine Faith In Massive, Unaccountable Government Secret Agencies
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WASHINGTON—Stressing that such an action would be highly reckless, FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Thursday that releasing the “Nunes Memo” could potentially undermine faith in the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies of the United States. “Making this memo public will almost certainly impede our ability to conduct clandestine activities operating outside any legal or judicial system on an international scale,” said Wray, noting that it was essential that mutual trust exist between the American people and the vast, mysterious cabal given free rein to use any tactics necessary to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizens or subvert religious and political groups. “If we take away the people’s faith in this shadowy monolith exempt from any consequences, all that’s left is an extensive network of rogue, unelected intelligence officers carrying out extrajudicial missions for a variety of subjective, and occasionally personal, reasons.” At press time, Wray confirmed the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies were unaware of any wrongdoing for violating constitutional rights.

...more at link
https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns ... 1822639681


Who needs "The Onion" when we have CNN/NYT/WaPo :cool

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Comey Opines....

"....weasels and liars never hold the field...
... there are no streets named after Joe McCarthy"
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Yeah right... and likely never a "Comey Street" in Washington.... nor "Clinton Drive"... "Obama Avenue"

Although there may well be a Federal Prison with an "Obama Wing"? Certainly a "Clinton Wing" :cool


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LMAO! You're killing it today, Rumpole. :84

I haven't read anything else today, except for twitter. Saw where Trump said to release the memo tomorrow without any redactions, no link or resource. Haven't seen anything else except I think Hannity tweeted something about it being released, so who knows?

Just another day sitting around "waiting"... being a patient grasshopper.

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ETA: Oh I see Trump has read the memo, will declassify it without redaction, is sending it back to the Intel Committee, for release tomorrow morning.

Per the White House pool via a blog. ;)


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Maybe Tomorrow, Grasshopper?


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The Charge of The Daft Brigade
By Alfred, Lord Nostradamus

Big Ugly to right of them,
Big Ugly to left of them,
Big Ugly in front of them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with White Hat and Black Hat,
Boldly they posted and well,
Into the jaws of "Sessions has got this",
Into the mouth of "it's a 3-D chess move"
Posted the six hundred swarm

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I WAS watching Live Trump speech to GOP at Trump Hotel, Washington.... it was live on fox for a few minutes, then..... POOF!!! ??

Looking for a livestrream on YT... they are ALL shut down :eek


THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!!!

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SHUT DOWN BY CRAP-ASSED NEWS ORGANIZATIONS???

The remnants of the ABC feed is available as a YT video... and you can HEAR some guy say "shut it down... shut it down" (4:10 minutes) just before they do in fact shut it down... this is no "technical glitch"
The shot zooms back... fades to black as you hear "shut it down, shut it down" NOT A TECHNICAL PROBLEM... It's a deliberate shut down. That single feed seems to have been a "pool feed" for everybody.

President Donald Trump remarks at Republican National Committee 2018 winter meeting | ABC News
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQGHtnu0-w


I am still playing the vid on another browser...(viewing cached version?) but looks like vid "no longer available" at link?

I ASSUME it will still show up as part of Tucker Carlson show... but you wont hear the ABC "Shut it down, shut it down"


Inquiring minds want to know...

Is THIS a Big Ugly? Black hat media producer?

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Zoom back, fade to black..."Shut it down, shut it down".... CUT!

FWIW...
(I call total BS)
I see tweet claiming TRUMP had press pool removed? I saw no sign of that and he referenced the "media haters" in his speech... so he knew they were there and broadcasting. That is at odds with media guy saying "Shut it down, shut it down" ?
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Trump had press pool was escorted out within five minutes of beginning his remarks at the RNC meeting - killing the broadcast entirely
https://twitter.com/charliespiering/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

I GUESS it could have been somebody in RNC kicking out media... but WHY has nobody explained this???

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Washington Post was streaming... live stream showing guests at the event half an hour before speeches started.
But... the (pool) feed cuts out after 4 minutes of Trump speech... Trump start at 37:25

Trump delivers remarks at RNC winter meeting
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And after feed cuts out.. a "Test Pattern"... seems to show which network controlled the feed?

You guessed it... Fake News CNN :roll

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The "Hive" mentioned lost feed but soon moved on. :roll

I guess unless Nostradams tells them it a "thing"... then it is no big deal.. to them....

But I would say if the network given the RESPONSIBILITY to provide a pool feed for all networks just decided to shut down, cutting link between POTUS and the public.. then it's a HUGE DEAL!! :stamp

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As I saw somebody mention... When LIVE shot of THE PRESIDENT is lost.. and people give no explanation, in fact Media talking heads make like nothing happened (to keep public calm)... it is not unreasonable for people to imagine that maybe "something happened" to the President? Assassination attempt or some sort of serious event.

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This is just a guess, but I think it is not being mentioned (or written about) because what Trump said after media cut the stream may not be good. He made fun of people. :eek

Breitbart obtained an audio recording, and the guy on Twitter you quoted above, did an article about it quoting what Trump (allegedly) joked about. Of course there is no audio posted to back it up. :roll

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/sending-media-away-president-donald-trump-joked-rnc-mental-test/


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Trump said NOTHING much to media...referred to them as "haters".. talked about fake polls.. as he does.... but it was well after that that they cut him off that's it.

The feed was cut is a deliberate manner... if media were excluded... Trump did not do it as he spoke. Neither does it seem to have been a pre-arranged thing. Media seemed to be promoting full coverage... it's just that the pool feed (CNN) shut down.


TRUMP DID NOT "DISMISS THE MEDIA POOL!!" That never happened... it is Fake News.

Watch the WP version.. it's only 4 minute long!!

There is a LOT OF CRAP being tweeted.

Charlie Spiering, the Breitbart writer is... made up the bit about Trump dismissing media... but good to know there is audio.

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The Memo is Out

Stay tuned.....

The four-page memo, released with a cover letter from the White House counsel, alleges that the FBI omitted information when it applied for a wiretap on an adviser of Trump’s campaign. The findings “raise concerns with the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions” with the court that approves surveillance requests, the memo says, and “represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses” related to surveillance.


The Memo plus WH cover letter (pdf 6 pages)
https://www.scribd.com/document/3705998 ... gence-memo


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WH Cover Letter
Spoiler:
THE WHITE HOUSE – WASHINGTON – February 2, 2018

The Honorable Devin Nunes Chairman, House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence
United States Capitol
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Mr. Chairman:

On January 29,2018, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (hereinafter “the Committee”) voted to disclose publicly a memorandum containing classified information provided to the Committee in connection with its oversight activities (the “Memorandum,” which is attached to this letter). As provided by clause II(g) of Rule X of the House of Representatives, the Committee has forwarded this Memorandum to the President based on its determination that the release of the Memorandum would serve the public interest.

The Constitution vests the President with the authority to protect national security secrets from disclosure. As the Supreme Court has recognized, it is the President’s responsibility to classify, declassify, and control access to information bearing on our intelligence sources and methods and national defense. See, e.g., Dep’t of Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518, 527 (1988). In order to facilitate appropriate congressional oversight, the Executive Branch may entrust classified information to the appropriate committees of Congress, as it
has done in connection with the Committee’s oversight activities here. The Executive Branch does so on the assumption that the Committee will responsibly protect such classified information, consistent with the laws of the United States.

The Committee has now determined that the release of the Memorandum would be appropriate. The Executive Branch, across Administrations of both parties, has worked to accommodate congressional requests to declassify specific materials in the public interest.! However, public release of classified information by unilateral action of the Legislative Branch is extremely rare and raises significant separation of powers concerns. Accordingly, the Committee’s request to release the Memorandum is interpreted as a request for declassification pursuant to the President’s authority.

1 See, e.g., S. Rept. 114-8 at 12 (Administration of Barack Obama) (“On April 3, 2014 … the Committee agreed to send the revised Findings and Conclusions, and the updated Executive Summary of the Committee Study, to the President for declassification and public release.”); H. Rept. 107-792 (Administration of George W. Bush) (similar); E.O. 12812 (Administration of George H.W. Bush) (noting Senate resolution requesting that President provide for declassification of certain information via Executive Order).

The President understands that the protection of our national security represents his highest obligation. Accordingly, he has directed lawyers and national security staff to assess the declassification request, consistent with established standards governing the handling of classified information, including those under Section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526. Those standards permit declassification when the public interest in disclosure outweighs any need to protect the information. The White House review process also included input from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice. Consistent with this review and these standards, the President has determined that declassification of the Memorandum is appropriate.

Based on this assessment and in light of the significant public interest in the memorandum, the President has authorized the declassification of the Memorandum. To be clear, the Memorandum reflects the judgments of its congressional authors. The President understands that oversight concerning matters related to the Memorandum may be continuing. Though the circumstances leading to the declassification through this process are extraordinary, the Executive Branch stands ready to work with Congress to accommodate oversight requests consistent with applicable standards and processes, including the need to protect intelligence sources and methods.

Sincerely,
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Donald F. McGahn II
Counsel to the President

cc: The Honorable Paul Ryan Speaker of the House of Representatives
The Honorable Adam Schiff Ranking Member, House Permanent Select
Committee on Intelligence


HPSCI Memo
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To: HPSCI Majority Members
From: HPSCI Majority Staff

Subject: Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Abuses at the Department
of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Purpose

This memorandum provides Members an update on significant facts relating to the Committee’s ongoing investigation into the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and their use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) during the 2016 presidential election cycle. Our findings, which are detailed below, 1) raise concerns with the legitimacy and legality of certain DOJ and FBI interactions with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), and 2) represent a troubling breakdown of legal processes established to protect the American people from abuses related to the FISA process.

Investigation Update

On October 21, 2016, DOJ and FBI sought and received a FISA probable cause order (not under Title VII) authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISC. Page is a u.s. citizen who served as a volunteer advisor to the Trump presidential campaign. Consistent with requirements under FISA, the application had to be first certified by the Director or Deputy Director of the FBI. It then required the approval of the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General (DAG), or the Senate-confirmed Assistant Attorney General for-the National Security Division.

The FBI and DOJ obtained one initial FISA warrant targeting Carter Page and three FISA renewals from the FISC. As required by statute (50 U.S.C. §J805(d)(1)), a FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by the FISC every 90 days and each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause. Then-Director James Corney signed three FISA applications in question on behalf of the FBI, and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe signed one. Then-DAG Sally Yates, then-Acting DAG Dana Boente, and DAG Rod Rosenstein each signed one or more FISA applications on behalf of DOJ.

Due to the sensitive nature of foreign intelligence activity, FISA submissions (including renewals) before the FISC are classified. As such, the public’s confidence in the integrity of the FISA process depends on the court’s ability to hold the government to the highest standard particularly as it relates to surveillance of American citizens. However, the FISC’s rigor in protecting the rights of Americans, which is reinforced by 90-day renewals of surveillance orders, is necessarily dependent on the government’s production to the court of all material and relevant facts. This should include information potentially favorable to the target of the FISA application that is known by the government.

In the case of Carter Page, the government had at least four independent opportunities before the FISC to accurately provide an accounting of the relevant facts. However, our findings indicate that, as described below, material and relevant information was omitted.

1) The “dossier’~ compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed’ an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research from Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or. any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.

b) The initial FISA application notes Steele was working for a named u.s. person, but does not name Fusion GPS and principal Glenn Simpson, who was paid by a U.S. law from (Perkins Coie) representing the DNC (even though it was known by DOJ at the time that political actor~ were involved with the Steele dossier). The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of-and paid by-the DNC and
Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.

2) The Carter Page FISA application also cited extensively a September 23,2016, Yahoo News article by. Michael Isikoff, which focuses on Page’s July 2016 trip to Moscow. , This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo News.

The Page FISA application incorrectly assesses that Steele did not directly provide information to Yahoo News. Steele has admitted in British court filings that he met with Yahoo News-and several other. outlets-in September 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS.
Perkins Coie was aware of Steele’s initial media contacts because they hosted at least one meeting in Washington D.C. in 2016 with Steele and Fusion GPS where this matter was discussed.

a) Steele was suspended and then terminated as an FBI source for what the FBI defines as the most serious of violations – an unauthorized disclosure to the media of his relationship with the FBI in an October 30, 2016, Mother Jones article by David Com. Steele should have been terminated for his previous undisclosed contacts with Yahoo and other outlets in September-before the Page application was submitted to the FISC in October-but Steele improperly concealed from and lied to the FBI about those contacts.

b) Steele’s numerous encounters with the media violated the cardinal rule of source handling-maintaining confidentiality-and demonstrated that Steele had become a less than reliable source for the FBI.

3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOl official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein.

Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald
Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files-but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.

4) According to the head of the FBI’s counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Corney briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was -according to his June 2017 testimony- “salacious and unverified.”

While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations. Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in
Decemper 2017 that p.o surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

5) The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, but there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos. The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete
Strzok.

Strzok was reassigned by the Special Counsel’s Office to FBI Human Resources for improper text messages with his mistress, FBI Attorney Lisa Page (no known relation to Carter Page), where they both demonstrated a clear bias against Trump and in favor of Clinton, whom Strzok had also investigated. The Strzok/Lisa Page texts also reflect
extensive discussions about the investigation, orchestrating leaks to the media, and include a meeting with Deputy Director McCabe to discuss an “insurance” policy against President Trump’s election.

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I have only skimmed the Memo. I want to read it with NO DISTRACTIONS... later... at the moment I am trying to watch/listen to reactions, pundits, spin-operatives etc.

EARLY THOUGHTS... there is nothing much NEW to people who have been paying attention. Same names, using Steele dossier etc.

I guess the Memo is CONFIRMATION of what was only speculation before? However, the MSM and Dem denials will not be abated.. the memo itself will be said to be "speculation" In that sense the Memo is equivalent to just yet another blog post. Conservative fan-posters will be appeased that they have their "Big Ugly".. "this is stunning" etc..... for a day.. even though NOBODY is indicted. Fake News and the Dim base will dismiss revelations and just get back to "Muh Russia" and "Muh Obstruction of Justice"


Its a MEMO... people are calling for the underlying docs.. and yet more people (eg Comey) to be questioned (by Congress) :doh

As I have opined... we are NOT short of evidence... we are short on CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.. and Indictments :roll


The evidence is real, the INDICTMENTS are Fake...

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Dan Bongino take....

February 2, 2018: Memo Special Edition
http://www.bongino.com/february-2-2018- ... l-edition/

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