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She already denied it according to the docket at the link. I guess she just can't get enough spankings from the Court of Appeals.



Well spotted karmady... :give

It's breaking news NOW... but you spotted it a day ahead of MSM

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:02 pm 
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Unbelievable. Deliberately misleading edits on NBC, and she can see no evidence of malice. With this and what I'm seeing coming out of DC, we are no longer a nation of laws,
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I just hope the 5th DCA lashes her over this one.


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Yes... there is hope with an appeal. If that fails Florida will have to give up the title of "Sunshine State"/

"Asshole State" will be more appropriate... from whence the Sun don't shine.

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Judge Debra Nelson Throws Out Zimmerman Lawsuit Against NBC – States Zimmerman Was “Public Figure”…
Posted on June 30, 2014 by sundance

As a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y expected, Judge Debra Nelson agrees with defendant (NBC) motion and dismisses the lawsuit by George Zimmerman against NBC for slander/defamation.

There really was no other way this court was going to rule. Judge Debra Nelson was the same judge from the original criminal trial. Two things were brutally obvious:

Firstly, she is horridly inept in legal analysis and opinion. Nelson relies heavily on her judicial clerks to form and write her decisions. Subsequently, in the higher profile Zimmerman case, her staff level decision making was exposed and she was twice reversed in pre-trial rulings by the 5th Florida DCA.

Those ruling reversals were before the Zimmerman trial formerly started – and there were at least 4 or 5 more pre-trial decisions the defense team could have easily appealed and won, but just chose not to. Including the actual start date of the trial itself which she refused to delay even after the 5th DCA reversed her deposition rulings -in favor of defense- 3 days before trial start was scheduled.

Secondly, Nelson’s actual trial rulings were generally flawed; and most legal analysts would agree she was/is legally weak-minded. However, worse than the absence of legal acumen was her visible bias against the defendant, Zimmerman, and his defense.

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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ic-figure/

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Zimmerman Libel Suit Against NBC Thrown Out
Posted by Andrew Branca Monday, June 30, 2014 at 12:30pm

Judge Debra Nelson, who presided at murder trial, rules Zimmerman’s victim status alone is sufficient to subject him to deliberate libel

How can we miss her, when she won’t go away?

Judge Debra Nelson, who presided over the murder trial of George Zimmerman, today issued a ruling dismissing his libel suit against NBC (a copy of that ruling can be found at the bottom of this post).

Those of us who followed the Zimmerman murder trial closely will recall Judge Nelson as ruling so consistently in favor of the Prosecution, fairly bending over backwards in her deference to prosecution arguments.

In contrast, her rulings in favor of the defense were few and far between. It was surely a similar perception by the defense that inhibited them from ever seeking self-defense immunity for Zimmerman, as provided for under Florida statute 776.032 “Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.”

That the same judge who so consistently ruled against Zimmerman at his murder trial would be the one chosen to also preside over his libel suit against NBC is eye brow raising, to say the least.

Zimmerman’s libel suit against NBC was based on NBC’s admitted doctoring of the audio of his 911 call to police, apparently done with the intent of making Zimmerman appear to be racist.

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Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC
By Rene Stutzman, Staff Writer
11:57 a.m. EDT, June 30, 2014

A Sanford judge today put an end to George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC Universal.

Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson ruled that the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer is entitled to no money from the media giant.

She issued a summary judgment in the network's favor, meaning that unless an appeals court reverses her, the case is now dead.

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From CTH...... :cool

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ent-843824

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June 30, 2014 at 5:45 pm

By no stretch was GZ a “public figure”, by any reasonable definition, before the TM incident. The shonkey reporting in question was about that incident. That incident is the ONLY reason GZ might now (or then) be described as a “public figure”
This dopey ruling means that EVERYBODY involved in a crime incident immediately becomes a “public figure”. They can have complete falsehoods broadcast about them as if they were facts by “MSM”. The is what the wilfully ignorant lynch mob posters at True Gossip Forums do now…. but nobody takes them seriously. They are only for laughing at and for keeping daft old dingbats occupied. The Judicial System increasingly seems to be “broken” so lets give “Trial by True Gossip Forum Lynch Mobs a whirl. Whe there is a crime… DECREE somebody to be an “innocent victim” just as a stepping stone to define a PERPETRATOR who you evaluate with a presumption of guilt and a willingness to ignore or deny evidence. It just might work. It wont get at the truth or be “justice” in a real sense, but it will ensure “Justice for xxxxxxx”

Beyond that… we are not talking about some negative detail inadvertently released to the public (“slipsies”) We are talking about a DELIBERATE falsifying of information that was inserted into an already “inflamed” situation. There was already what amounted to a “Lynch Mob” threatening violence and death to GZ .
If this NBC thing is not GROSS defamation then nothing is.

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Here's my take from CTH:

Wow. Just wow. Nelson actually wrote the following in her decision:

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Based upon the undisputed facts as stated herein, this Court finds, as a matter of law, that Zimmerman became a limited purpose public figure. He voluntarily injected his views into the public controversy surrounding race relations and public safety in Sanford and pursued a course of conduct that ultimately led to the death of Martin and the specific controversy surrounding it.


Obvious grounds for reversal, and recusal.

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He voluntarily injected his views into the public controversy surrounding race relations and public safety in Sanford…


This statement applies to Zimmerman’s efforts to start a neighborhood watch program at RATL. To claim that such efforts make him a limited-purpose public figure is asinine. First of all, as has been stated, a Homeowner’s Association meeting is a private, not public, meeting. Second, the claim that such efforts constituted injecting views into the public controversy surrounding race relations is factually incorrect. The neighborhood watch program did not involve race. Further, at the time of those private HOA meetings, there was no particular “public controversy surrounding race relations…in Sanford.”

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…and pursued a course of conduct that ultimately led to the death of Martin…


This statement in itself is libelous. Zimmerman was found not guilty in [redacted]‘s own courtroom. His actions were determined, by a jury of his peers, to be an act of self-defense. Martin died because of his own actions. In case you’ve forgotten, Debbie Dipwad, let me remind you of the words of 5DCA (you should know them well by now; they’ve slapped you down enough):

That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook.” – 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

Martin is dead because he decided to commit a felony assault against an armed victim, whom he put in mortal fear justifying the use of deadly force in self-defense. It is thus Martin, and not Zimmerman, who pursued a course of action that led to his own death.

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…[and pursued a course of conduct that ultimately led to] the specific controversy surrounding [the death of Martin].


Again, factually untrue. Zimmerman was in hiding, trying to avoid all of the hounding media and actionable death threats against him and his family. He was not making public appearances or public statements.

In fact, a key point of the lawsuit is to demonstrate that the malicious defamation of Zimmerman by NBC fueled the very controversy Dunderhead Debbie now blames on the victim: Zimmerman.

Nelson lays bare her own bias, for the entire world to see – bias that is so prejudiced against the Petitioner, George Zimmerman, that Nelson demonstrates who abject disregard for blind justice and the utter inappropriateness of her continued presence on the bench if any Zimmerman is in the courtroom.

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Rumpole wrote:
Yes... there is hope with an appeal. If that fails Florida will have to give up the title of "Sunshine State"/

"Asshole State" will be more appropriate... from whence the Sun don't shine.


If Nelson's... novel arguments become precedent case law, then any and all selective editing to change the meaning of someone's quoted words is fair game as a matter of First Amendment-protected editorializing.

I think it's time to find some choice quotes of Debbie's, and start slicing-and-dicing.

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Thanks, Chip. Well stated. ^^ and ^

This kind of thing is so frustrating. If Nelson feels as she states.. why did she not recuse herself from the criminal trial? Certainly with the baggage from that (heated) trial it seems ludicrous that she would be chosen to adjudicate on this civil matter, or that she would accept that call and not recuse herself from the Civil case. The only explanation I come up with is that in both cases she WANTED to be there. She wanted to steer both matters to an outcome she favored, or that people she pays homage to favored.
She quashed the "Judicial Inquiry" that was underway in regard the criminal case. The Motion for sanctions against Bernie included a call for a Judicial Inquiry.... seems to me there is an obvious conflict of interest since she "maneuvered" the dropping of the Sanctions and Inquiry in the Criminal case while adjudicating the civil case. So... how about a Judicial Inquiry NOW. An inquiry into Judge Nelson and her gerrymandering of all matters around GZ cases.

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I'm so angry and disgusted, I cannot even comment (a first for me).


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Is there an appeal route?


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Hi Cherp.. apparently there is... but I have not seen confirmation that anything is underway.

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Hopefully the 5th DCA gives Judge Nelson a much deserved smack down.


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Yes Londo... then after the smack down... drag her up and give her a slap, and then another smack down, and then a good kicking!!

(All metaphorically speaking of course) :cool

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