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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:36 am 
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To GhettoCode: Will there be audio of jury selection or will it be completely blacked out?” There will be audio, just no video of panelists.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:39 am 
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The sad thing is, I am in no way whatsoever confident of a proper verdict here... in fact, I'm more pessimistic about the jury's role in this than ever, and I've always been pretty pessimistic about it.

I was just posting some stuff on Huffington a bit ago and the way the Trayvonites are still just so absolutely committed to their fact-starved narrative... is truly breathtaking and disappointing. They've assembled their own entire list of little automatic responses to every fact you can give them... and they're utterly convinced of each of them. Even though some of them are jaw-droppingly absurd or disconnected from the actual evidence.

One example that is particularly sad is how they like to mention Wolfinger and Lee no longer working in their former roles... so, what you basically have here is a snake eating it's own tail or something. They create a mindless horde calling for blood, that then results in officials being thrown under the bus when they uphold their duties with integrity... then they later use their own victories for emotion over logic and law as further evidence of their stupid notions...

it's just sick.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:41 am 
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Robert Zimmerman just gave an improptu presser, very eloquent in Spainish and English....he did great...said once the jury is seated he will no longer be tweeting.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:43 am 
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rzimmermanjr's Q&A is over. Once the trial begins, expect no tweets from him, he says.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:46 am 
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Various TraySites calling Robert Zimmerman a "media whore" yet when the TrayFamily did it, "they have class."

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:47 am 
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#GeorgeZimmerman proceeding about to resume. Clerk is calling attorneys to courtroom.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:50 am 
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Quote:

A) where are the black people


In the jury pool.

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B) Don't they look like a paid group of protesters?


Some of Obama's base from Chicago.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:50 am 
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#TrayvonMartin family and attorneys back in courtroom, state reviewing 1st batch of questionnaires. Sheriff Don Eslinger here, too.


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Trayvon Martin's mother Sabrina Fulton and his father Tracy Martin have just arrived in court.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:52 am 
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Defense jury consultant back to the table, as is #georgezimmerman



(SO RELIEVED to see they have this jury consultant!!)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:00 pm 
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I suspect the jury make up will be 4 women and 2 men. Race breakdown 3 to 4 Hispanic and one or two* Caucasian/s

*Possibly an African American.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:02 pm 
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Judge focusing on answer to question no. 4. Don't know the question.

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Judge suggests they separate potential jurors by answer to Question 4, unknown to us. May ask about hardship, or perhaps media exposure?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:05 pm 
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My understanding is that if the jury reflects Seminole County demographics it SHOULD be almost entirely, or entirely white.

To be brutally honest, with very... VERY few exceptions I simply don't think having black jurors on this case is consistent with the goal of a fair trial.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:07 pm 
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Geosurface wrote:
My understanding is that if the jury reflects Seminole County demographics it SHOULD be almost entirely, or entirely white.

To be brutally honest, with very... VERY few exceptions I simply don't think having black jurors on this case is consistent with the goal of a fair trial.

While this is what the Sanford statistics bear out.....can you imagine what would happen??


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:08 pm 
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LondoJowo wrote:
I suspect the jury make up will be 4 women and 2 men. Race breakdown 3 to 4 Hispanic and one or two* Caucasian/s

*Possibly an African American.


I expect that the jury pool is rigged and there will be at least 2 blacks on the jury.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:10 pm 
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That's my bet too, John. Anything else would be riot-inducing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:18 pm 
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I agree they will ensure at least 2 blacks, but remember that anything less than a guilty verdict is riot-inducing.

And we *must* not become a country that allows considerations like that to influence who gets charged with a crime...

oh wait... we already have become that.

but let's hope this was just the wake up call which was needed to correct course.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:32 pm 
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Lunch Break until 2:00pm.

Attorneys to be back at 1:30.

The prospective jurors are to be back at 2:00.


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Court in recess to 2, lawyers will be back at 1:30.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:40 pm 
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I am having so much trouble with ClickOrlando buffering all the time. I have the fastest broad band from Quest that is used for game playing. This is becoming a very bad problem.
Any suggestions?

Shellie looks good.

I think one black juror is enough and should be educated. Out of 500 prospective jurors, one should be found.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:44 pm 
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Didn't have one problem with this site, even during the courtroom blackout today:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nat ... .htmlstory


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:46 pm 
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Having a wicked bad time with audio on all sites, then again, it could be my speakers.

I wouldn't mind seeing one or two Spainish jurors.


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