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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:38 am 
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I'm guessing the hearing didn't go well? I was up and watching the whole thing on live stream, but with my mouth hanging open and drooling. Too sleepy to take much in. I hope to find out here what happened. Is anything about TM's past coming into the trial? OMG Crump is uggly from the back too.


You are correct :wall

For the trial... I recommend getting drunk before each day starts, and playing loud music while it is in progress.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:43 am 
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Rumpole wrote:

Nelson missed the point.

The field trip is NOT meant to recreate the entire event... but rather to give jurors an idea of geography.. distances etc.

We have seen how that can be distorted in videos... such as the ones LIMPapa makes.... it really would help (IMO) to let the jury see the place where it all took place.



I think so too.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:47 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
From previous matters..... sanctions and inquiry

Kathi Belich, WFTV

Defense witness says the Duval state attorney's IT director who is his client provided the information. (1/2)

The IT director said prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda was involved--he is special prosecutor from Duval County.


Payback for Corey's preferential pension padding and witch hunting of SAO employees. :91


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:50 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
Nelson missed the point.

The field trip is NOT meant to recreate the entire event... but rather to give jurors an idea of geography.. distances etc.

We have seen how that can be distorted in videos... such as the ones LIMPapa makes.... it really would help (IMO) to let the jury see the place where it all took place.


Nelson got the point. She doesn't want to fuark up the State's case by interfacing the jury with reality.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:11 pm 
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yes... I imagine she does know what she is doing... not so much she "missed" the point as closed her eyes and ears to it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:17 pm 
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According to MOM, all the motions regarding TM, drugs,fights,gun, cannot be said in opening statements, but can come in if state opens the door. According to Crump, none of it can come in period.

Interesting Crump presser, the usual twisting of facts. No questions for Sybrina. NatJackson basically dragged away, you could see she was chomping at the bit to get at the mic...


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:25 pm 
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Yes... supposedly they can come in if State "opens the door"... but the doorman is Nelson.... don't hold your breath while waiting for her to allow anything in during trial.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I always like to post YT of hearing and any pressers after... if anybody spots links.. please post.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:29 pm 
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From CTH... links to pressers....

Robert Zimmerman




Mark O'Mara




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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:34 pm 
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A door can be opened by a witness answering questions by the state. I've seen that happen a lot. Even though the state will tell a witness where they can't go, the witness will make a mistake and not even know it. One word out of place can do it.

I saw a new state attorney at the hearing. Anyone know who that is? He looks and acts calm. Unlike Bernie.


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Robert Zimmerman, Jr. just made a move that will cause the most rabid of bigots to out themselves, because they are incapable of doing otherwise.

God Bless you, RZJr! You are the face and the voice of true courage and character.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:05 pm 
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It could go like this
Sabrina: "he was a good boy"
MOM: "does a good boy have pictures of under age girls and videos of him beating up homeless people"
BDLR: "Objection facts not in evidence"
MOM: "your honor I would like to present the following items as evidence"

If she denies the evidence, that would be the first place for appeal. It goes to direct impeachment of a witnesses testimony.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 1:06 pm 
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Chip, I think the most rabid Bigots are already "unleashed"

They have certainly already made much of the fact that Robert is Gay.

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chipbennett wrote:
Robert Zimmerman, Jr. just made a move that will cause the most rabid of bigots to out themselves, because they are incapable of doing otherwise.

God Bless you, RZJr! You are the face and the voice of true courage and character.


I agree. His press conference was excellent. Kudos to him.


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From CTH.... posting Diwatamans YT of Hearing

George Zimmerman Hearing Video – Thanks To DiwataMan
Posted on May 28, 2013 by sundance

Video provided by DiwataMan
http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2013/05/ ... ment-13866






Today we learned:


    ….. that Trayvon has pictures of unknown (?) 15 or 17 year old girl naked on his phone (sexting) @2:06:21
    ….. that Trayvon has video he took on his phone of a homeless man being beaten by his crew @57:28
    ….. that Trayvon sought to purchase more marijuana in Sanford @52:58
    ….. that there’s a whistleblower in the States Attorney’s office willing to give testimony that Bernie De La Rionda intentionally manipulated and hid the information from Trayvon’s phone @2:01:20.


FORWARD TO 34:00 for START

DETAILS

1) @34:15 STATE’S MOTION TO COMPEL SHELLIE ZIMMERMAN TO TESTIFY AT DEPOSITION (Granted)

2) @40:04 STATE’S MOTION REGARDING OPINION AS TO APPROPRIATE PENALTY OR DISREGARD OF LAW (Granted)

3) @40:49 STATE’S MOTION TO BAR PRIOR CRIMINAL HISTORY (Granted)

4) @41:45 STATE’S MOTION TO STOP DEFENSE FROM NOTING ABSENCE OF ANY STATE WITNESSES (Granted)

5) @43:20 STATE’S MOTION TO STOP USE BY DEFENSE OF VOICE STRESS TEST PASSING (Granted)

6) @45:09 STATE’S MOTION TO STOP DEFENSE FROM USING SELF-SERVING HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF DEFENDANT (Granted)

7) @47:58 STATE’S MOTION TO EXCLUDE TRAYVON MARTIN SOCIAL MEDIA / CHARACTER HISTORY (Granted)

8) @1:06:40 STATE’S MOTION TO LIMIT/EXCLUDE IMPROPER OPINION EVIDENCE (Granted)

9) @1:10:04 STATE’S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER TO STOP DEFENSE FROM USING TOXICOLOGY (Granted)

STATE WINS 9 OUT OF 9 MOTIONS 100%

10) @1:20:12 DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR ANONYMOUS JURY (Denied Anonymity / continued to May 31 hearing)

11) @1:38:27 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO ALLOW JURY TO INSPECT THE INCIDENT SCENE DURING TRIAL (Denied)

12) @1:44:29 DEFENDANT’S REDACTED MOTION TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL WITNESS DISCLOSURE (Granted)

13) @1:45:31 DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR EVIDENTIARY HEARING REGARDING ADMISSIBILITY OF EXPERT OPINION TESTIMONY (Resolved/Continued June 6)

14) @1:45:50 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO ESTABLISH REASONABLE EXPERT FEE (denied – not courts issue)

@1:53:37 (Media argues more on photographing jury, hearing May 31 1:30)

15) @2:01:20 DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST STATE FOR DISCOVERY VIOLATIONS AND REQUEST FOR JUDICIAL INQUIRY INTO WITNESS TESTIMONY REGARDING VIOLATIONS (Abruptly stopped witness statement – Continued on June 6 and possibly June 7)

16) @2:12:24 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO ALLOW EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY AT HEARING ON MAY 28, 2013 TO BE BY VIDEO CONFERENCING (Granted)

DEFENSE WINS – 2, LOSES – 3, NO DECISION OR CONTINUE LATER – 3

17) @2:12:55 STATES THIRD MOTION FOR GAG ORDER (Denied)

18) @2:23:05 DEFENDANT’S MOTION TO CONTINUE – DELAY TRIAL DATE (Denied)


TOTALS:

STATE wins 9 of 10 of their motions [90%] Image

DEFENSE wins 2 of 9 of their motions [22%] (with three still to be determined) Image

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:15 pm 
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Hearing over.....

Thread Locked...

Please continue case discussion at....


George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Discussion #5
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=877&p=39589#p39589

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