It looks like MOM has had it...I hope this is the beginning of the end to this miscarriage of justice.

O'Mara's Latest Motions: The State Has Some Explaining to Do
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Mon Oct 15, 2012 at 11:49:02 AM EST

In the George Zimmerman case, Mark O'Mara has filed two fairly explosive motions.

You can read them:
http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/document ... covery.pdf

http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/document ... arings.pdf

In addition to withholding the report on the analysis of the phone found at the scene alleged to have been Trayvon's, it turns out the records given to the defense by the investigator who downloaded the information from the phone's sim card don't match those turned over by the State.

Also check out Officer Joseph Santiago's chronology of events concerning the phone.
http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk45 ... lchron.jpg

There's lots more in these motions I don't have time to get into now like issues regarding the Dee Dee (witness 8) interview. O'Mara says he will depose the Martin family lawyers and public relations adviser.

Diwataman has a summary of the motions.
http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2012/10/ ... #more-1605

If the state has been playing fast and loose with its discovery obligations as alleged by O'Mara, and it seems he has the documentation to back it up, the state has some serious explaining to

TalkLeft Blog
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/10/15/12492/014

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O’Mara Slams the State – Hints at possible forgery
by diwataman

In a seven page motion Mark O’Mara slammed the state with accusations of withholding evidence, obfuscating details, flat out ignoring requests for discovery and even possible forgery. The story that says it all is in regards to Trayvon’s supposed cell phone, which allow me to remind you that no evidence to date has been released which shows that there was a phone found at the scene that Trayvon was using. There’s more in the motion(s) than just this one story but for now I will only be dealing with this aspect.

...read the blog
http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2012/10/ ... #more-1605

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Defense says state not turning over all evidence
Attorney: State expert testified he could not get to the most important information from Trayvon's cell phone.
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
7:00 p.m. EDT, October 15, 2012

George Zimmerman's defense filed a motion Monday complaining that Special Prosecutor Angela Corey is cutting corners and doing a sloppy job of handing over evidence in the second-degree murder case.

Defense attorney Don West also revealed that the state crime lab expert charged with analyzing Trayvon Martin's cell phone swore under oath that he hadn't unlocked the most important information from it because he had no pass code. Steve Brenton, an analyst with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, told defense attorneys that last month.

West raised the point as an example of what a miserable job Corey's office has done in turning over evidence. Several times Zimmerman's defense has asked Corey's office for what the phone revealed.

It was "quite by accident," West wrote, that defense attorneys learned Brenton had tried to analyze the phone but had been unable to finish the job. Brenton wrote a report about his findings, West wrote, but the state still hasn't surrendered it.

West described Corey's evidence-release process as "haphazard and cavalier" and asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to begin having a monthly two-hour hearing so the two sides can hash out their problems.

If that's asking for too much time, West wrote, the judge should appoint a retired judge to manage it.

The state is not turning over what it should, West wrote. For example, it has given defense attorneys grainy photocopies of crime scene photos instead of digital copies.

Prosecutors also have failed to turn over certain witness interviews and witness sketches and have handed over recordings that are unplayable, West alleged.

"The state's approach to discovery has been to require the defense to figure out what the state has failed to provide and then ask for it rather than fulfill the state's legal obligation to provide complete and timely discovery," West wrote, predicting defense would have a difficult time collecting all the evidence it needs.

...more at link
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 8070.story

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Sentinel fights attempt to seal Zimmerman, Trayvon records
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
12:25 p.m. EDT, October 16, 2012

SANFORD - The Orlando Sentinel has joined more than a dozen other news organizations, fighting an attempt by prosecutors in the George Zimmerman murder case to seal defense subpoenas and other records.

Also fighting that battle are The New York Times, CBS News, NBCUniversal, CNN, The Wall Street Journal, Tampa Bay Times, Associated Press, USA Today, The Miami Herald and others.

Attorneys will be in court in Sanford Friday, making their case to Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson.

Lead prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda has asked the judge to seal all future defense subpoenas and review them behind closed doors. He's also asked her to do the same for whatever evidence they produce.

But media lawyers say that's not in accord with Florida's open records law and long history of holding court hearings in the open.
....snip...

Friday's hearing will also cover other matters, for example, whether the state is entitled to Zimmerman's medical records from the day after the shooting.


....more at link
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 4302.story

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How disgusting. Sneaky snakes.

You gotta wonder what the Prosecutors have to hide if they find a need to seal defense subpoenas and other records. This case stinks to high heaven, IMO.


(But it does gets more and more fascinating.)

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George Zimmerman murder trial set for June 10
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
11:57 a.m. EDT, October 17, 2012

SANFORD – George Zimmerman's murder trial in the death of Trayvon Martin was set for June 10 during a hearing in court this morning.

Zimmerman, 29, is charged with second-degree murder for shooting Trayvon, an unarmed 17-year-old, in Sanford Feb. 26, a homicide that set off civil-rights rallies across the country.

This morning, Circuit Judge Debra Nelson set Zimmerman’s trial for June 10. Attorneys in the case said they estimate the trial will last three weeks. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda said he expected jury selection would take longer than the trial itself.

The hearing, known as a docket sounding, lasted about six minutes. Though the judge set a date, Zimmerman attorney Mark O’Mara was noncommittal about when he’d be fully prepared.

“I don’t know today when we’ll be ready for trial,” he said.

After the hearing, Zimmerman's defense tweeted he will likely seek a hearing under the controversial self-defense law commonly known as “stand your ground” in the months leading up to trial.

The "self-defense immunity hearing [is] likely to be requested for April or May," the tweet said.

Zimmerman’s wife Shellie Zimmerman, 25, is charged with perjury, and her attorney was also in court for this morning. Prosecutors say she lied at her husband’s first bond hearing when she testified that the couple was broke.

Prosecutors agreed with Shellie Zimmerman’s lawyer to delay the next hearing in her case until Dec. 12. No trial date was set in that case.

Neither defendant appeared in court today. Both are living in hiding in Seminole County.

Wednesday’s hearing was Nelson’s first in the George Zimmerman case. She noted that she is set to be reassigned to civil and divorce cases in January, but said she will keep the case. The change in assignments, she said, should give her more flexibility and time for hearings.

Nearly two weeks ago, O’Mara formally asked the judge to delay the case. This week, co-counsel Don West filed paperwork, complaining that the special prosecutor in the case has failed to turn over all the evidence that’s required and had been uncooperative.

There’s another hearing in his case Friday. Among the things the judge will then hear is an argument about whether to allow O’Mara to subpoena Trayvon’s school records and whether the public should know about future defense subpoenas and what evidence they produce.

She’ll also hear argument about whether prosecutors are entitled to George Zimmerman’s medical records.

Also today defense attorneys in George Zimmerman’s case are scheduled to depose four Sanford police officers, including one who conducted a voice-stress test – something similar to a lie detector test – on Zimmerman and concluded he was telling the truth.

That’s to be followed by depositions on Thursday of four more Sanford cops and four Sanford fire-rescue employees who were at the scene the night of the shooting.

...more at link
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 1347.story

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Docket Sounding hearing "lasted 6 minutes"

WESH NEWS Video report:

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Prosecutors want George Zimmerman’s lawyers muzzled

Zimmerman’s defense lawyer, Mark O’Mara, should be banned from discussing the case on the Internet and with the media, prosecutors said.

By Frances Robles
frobles@MiamiHerald.com

The Duval County state attorney has a message for George Zimmerman’s defense attorney: Zip it.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda filed papers Thursday in Seminole County Circuit Court asking a judge to muzzle defense attorney Mark O’Mara, whom the prosecutor accuses of taking to the Internet to try his case in the media.

“Unless defense counsel stops talking to the media about the case, in person or by use of defendant’s website, it will [be] more difficult to find jurors who have not been influenced by the media accounts of the case,” de la Rionda said. “...An impartial jury could never be seated.”

De la Rionda asked Circuit Judge Debra Nelson to issue a gag order, which would silence the defense, prosecutors, law enforcement and any of the lawyers’ employees in the case of Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the death of Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin in Central Florida in February.

If the judge agrees, lawyers and investigators would not be allowed to make any statements outside the courtroom about the case, evidence, credibility of witnesses or possible sentences. If the judge allows it, they’d even be kept from opining about Zimmerman’s guilt or innocence.

It’s the second time de la Rionda has made such a request. He made the same motion in April before a different judge. That judge declined the request, but was later forced off the case for other reasons.

De la Rionda, who never speaks publicly about the case, filed the motion after a particularly active spell on the website O’Mara maintains to update the press and the public about the case.



....more at link
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/18/3 ... rmans.html

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Judge Nelson may rule Friday on whether to allow the social media and school record subpoenas to move forward.

On Monday, Facebook lawyers sent a letter to O’Mara vowing to fight the subpoena. Trayvon’s social-media account, Facebook attorney Furqan Mohammed said, is not only irrelevant to the case, but by law cannot be released. Mohammed said federal law protects the account information, and added that an argument over the issue would have to take place in a California court.

“We think the attorneys for Facebook are essentially saying the same thing we have been saying all along: Trayvon’s Facebook and social media are completely irrelevant,” said Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon’s family. “All of these issues are distractions that take the focus off George Zimmerman.”

Zimmerman is charged in the Feb. 26 killing of Trayvon, a Miami Gardens high school junior who was visiting his father in Sanford. Zimmerman claims the unarmed teen attacked him and he was forced to shoot in self defense.

Trayvon’s parents are expected in court Friday to urge prosecutors to push for release of Zimmerman’s medical records.

“The family thinks those records are far more relevant,” Crump said.

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REMINDER

Hearing on Friday 19th October 1:30PM EDT

I have a separate thread... will post links to Live Streaming (probably just before it starts)

http://randomtopics.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=616

Notice of October 19 Hearing in the George Zimmerman Case
on 07 October 2012.
On Friday, October 5, the Zimmerman defense team filed a Notice of Hearing, announcing a hearing to be held at 1:30 p.m. on October 19. At the October 19 hearing, the defense will ask the Court to consider a Motion for Order Issuing Subpoenas Duces Tecum; an "In-Camera" Review of Medical Records; and a Motion to Request Review of Certain Discovery.

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Rumpole? Do you know anyone with medical experience? I would like to know about the trajectory of the bullet. As described in the autopsy report, it entered at the left 5th intercostal space, pierced the pericardial sac, lower right ventricle and settled in the lower right lung.

It seems to me that is not only moving left to right but also in a slightly downward path. If you are bent over someone and they pin your hand to their side the first reaction would be is to try sit up and pull away. A person can only go as far as their arm. And the left side would end up closest to the person being held down. ((This may make sense only to me but I am willing to take my lumps as a first time poster.))

Not a doctor or a nurse or anyone else, just a google fiend... but it seems to me that that would fit GZ's description of what happened out there.

Also, isn't there a test to see if the blood on ME-8, Stain A, was tested to determine if it was from the nasal region?

Firstly, and most importantly....

Welcome to RT


I don't have a pet medical expert... but I can follow what you are saying...

IMO the act of "pinning TM's hand" and firing gun was all done in the blinking of an eye.. hardly time to do much at all...
With the gun so close to TM.. the angle of entry and bullet trajectory could vary with even the slightest angle of GZ's hand as he fired.... I think that would override everything else.

Does this matter? I have to admit I am reluctant to go too far discussing the fine details... because the overall situation is so clear.

TM was on top of GZ, beating him. GZ was crying out for help and stuggling to get away. He was in fear of his life. He shot TM.

It's self defense.

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Agreed. He has the witnesses, he has the DNA, he has the injuries...all of which support his claim. Just looking for other things to support him that are never brought up.

Yes.
EVERYTHING supports GZ's version of events

I wonder why?

Could it be he is telling the truth?

"Not so fast....." say the Trayvon Zone people.... "What if........ "

They just don't get it... and never will.

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I must say I really like your site. It has many other things to look into and I will be checking it out more.

Say... do you have a video somewhere of MOM giving a press conference around Aug 13th. I remember that he repeatedly told the news people that he was going for the 776.032 Self-Defense with Immunity not the 776.013 which is SYG, as I understand it. I remember it being outside. DiwataMan had it but when I checked his link yesterday from TalkLeft, it was set to private. Same as his site. I had no luck with You Tube either.

Sorry to be so chatty this early in the AM. Thank you for the site. I appreciate any site that discusses facts in evidence without rancor. IMO, there can't be enough of them.

EDIT RUMPOLE:
I quoted some of this post over to Daily Discourse thread... and deleted it here... it's the only way I can split a post and have parts of it in two different threads

Chatty is fine here

But.......

We can get bogged down in discussion of other forums and people there... so I do move such stuff to "Daily Discourse/Introduction " Thread
http://randomtopics.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=63&p=15801#p15801

It really is quite OK to discuss such stuff... just better to do it separate from the GZ case (if possible)


I remember the press conference MOM did outside his office... not sure if I uploaded a vid of it... I only do that if I can't find it on YT. I will have to look.

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I did find that I posted the YT you are referring to... but it was not one that I uploaded... and it does now show as "private"



I'll see if I can find another copy.

I'll leave this link... the uploader may set it to PUBLIC again?

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