70scarrestoguy wrote:
DebFrmHell wrote:
What else do they have? A chase as seen by W2 who only caught a glimpse of movement without any identifying factors."
It's likely that witness #2 had (allegedly) seen Trayvon running north towards the walkway-T. Whether Chad had been following him, with the intent of recording a beatdown video of George, is speculative opinion at best. I'm interested in the time that elapsed between witness #2 seeing the figures running past her window & the time when the first sounds of a verbal altercation were heard. If it's much more than 0:30 then George would've either still been near RVC while speaking to NEN or beginning his walk back to his SUV.
Chad's claimed actions are highly unlikely to be true, I don't believe that he never noticed the police presence within the neighborhood as even with headphones on you'd feel the vibration from the helicopter overhead. I've never seen mention of whether the police knocked upon the doors of the residences along that dog walk path.
Oh, thanks a lot for getting me to reread interviews!!! For about the thousandth time... Gives me something to do and keeps me out of trouble. LOL.
She doesn't really go into detail about it in the FDLE interview. I admit I have never heard an audio of her interview so I am reading their recap. The recaps done by the SAO investigators leaves little to be desired. I don't have that kind of patience.
You have to think of what she would say on the stand. "Could you tell the sex of the person running?" No. "Could you see any colors of clothing?" No. "Height?" No. Even assuming it is Martin, it is still speculation. Could have been the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. While I believe you are right, that it was Martin, I just don't think it will ever get into court records. Personally, if it does, I would think it would be the Prosecution trying to get it in saying that it is Zimmerman chasing Martin down the dog walk to which the Defense will counter with Martin catching up with Zimmerman.
Every so often there is a problem in my neighborhood. I am in the county, not city services so a helicopter comes out for the occasion. I don't ever hear them. The only way I notice them is the big spotlight that lights up the street. Even when the problem was a few doors down. They generally stay up and away, not over. IMO ONLY, they stay away from any line of fire which could be upwards of a mile. The only time I really hear them is when they are circling a subdivision that is over from mine. They have lots of problems over there. Easily a half mile down the road. Just an observation.
I have never figured out why W10 is listed but never interviewed by SPD. I couldn't find an interview of him by FDLE either. The only one I have found is the one done by the SAO. Why was there no interest in him from either of those depts. is beyond me. And there is no part of me that doesn't think that Brandy Green's position with juvie didn't play some factor. They (mother and son) even gave that joint interview on TV.
The one thing I found interesting, and I knew about one of them, were two witnesses that saw Martin in a position other than with his hands underneath him. I think it was W6 who said that it was like a crime scene outline. That is what I remember from much earlier. Another said it was like a running position, similar to what W6 had said is how I picture it in my head. Why I think it is important is that Zimmerman said he wasn't sure if Martin was deceased until he was at the station. He said he had pulled his arms outwards. LE reports the hands being beneath him.
Call me a bleeding heart but I think that Martin was conscious for long enough to pull his arms inward towards his wound. Maybe upwards of 20-30 seconds and that makes me feel bad for him. I think it is a residual feelings. Empathy.
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