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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:36 pm 
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Yes I agree Packy.... though his personal safety is a worry... there really is some nasty stuff out there... it only takes one nut-job to act on it.

I do hope GZ defence can quietly get permission for him to move out of State... it looks to me like that is not excluded.. he just has to ask the Judge/inform the Court.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:11 am 
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Lester VS. Zimmerman Bond Decision….. “Advanced Lessons In Judicial Railroading”
Posted on July 5, 2012 by sundancecracker

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Judge Lester is specifically and intentionally using his power to manipulate the Orlando court system, in a flawed ideological effort to avoid being on the wrong side of those political forces who can bring him down. It appears George Zimmerman is being set up to fail with the current Bond Ruling.

The Judicial Order establishing bond has been structured and worded with the specific intent of ”using” the legal system to produce a “desired outcome” (key words “using” and “desired”).

IMHO - Representation from “outside” Seminole County is needed asap, and serious consideration should be given to keeping GZ in jail for the moment. Safer ten-fold.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:18 am 
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George Zimmerman's Lawyers Seek Donations
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Thu Jul 05, 2012 at 07:15:40 PM EST


Via Mark O'Mara and the Zimmerman defense team: They need money and explain why. In order to come up with an additional fee for the bondsman of $85,000 ($100,000 less the $15,000 premium paid for the first bond the bonding company is apparently going to apply to the new bond), they won't have enough left for the costs associated with George Zimmerman's defense (let alone legal fees.)

For those who have given in the past, for those who have thought about giving, for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman was justified in his actions, for those who feel they would do the same if they were in Mr. Zimmerman's shoes, for those that think Mr. Zimmerman has been treated unfairly by the media, for those who feel Mr. Zimmerman has been falsely accused as a racist, for those who feel this case is an affront to their constitutional rights -- now is the time to show your support.

The defense fund is at http://www.gzdefensefund.com/

Doesn't the Court accept real property bonds? I'm surprised there isn't a wealthy Zimmerman supporter in Florida who wouldn't put up real property with $1 million in equity, to avoid needing a bondsman entirely, saving the defense $85,000. The Judge's order doesn't specify it has to be a cash or surety bond. The Judge's approval might be necessary, but it doesn't seem to be prohibited by statute. Other Florida counties/districts take them:

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I realize George doesn't like being in jail, but I think he should appeal the bond ruling or file for reconsideration. For the chance to save $85,000., George could spend a few more weeks in jail while O'Mara makes the point to the Judge that if the defense fund money goes to bond, there's not enough left for costs (expert witnesses, forensic testing, private investigators etc) needed to defend the case, and the state of Florida will end up picking up the tab.

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This was a really bad bond ruling. If there aren't enough contributions in the next few days to both post the bond and have enough left for defense costs, I hope O'Mara doesn't post the bond, and asks the Judge to reconsider. Then it's the judge's decision: Line the pockets of a private bonding company, leaving the defendant with insufficient money to fund the cost of his defense and legal fees, resulting in Zimmerman being declared indigent and the state picking up the cost of defending him, or set a reasonable bond. $300,000., a doubling of the original bond, would have been more than sufficient. $1 million in a case where the issue is self-defense is way over the top.

I also think O'Mara omitted three additional groups of people who might want to contribute: (1) Those who think a public relations campaign orchestrated by private lawyers unduly interfered in the orderly progression of the investigation and pressured the state into bringing charges; (2) Those who think prosecutors intentionally and improperly overcharged the case as second degree murder; and (3) Those who think the entire prosecution is politically motivated.

Today it's George Zimmerman. Tomorrow it could be you or one of your loved ones. I hope people donate to his defense fund.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:55 am 
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Sadly, it appears that Judge Lester leads the Lynch Mob pack. And that doesn't bode well for George. Lester wants it to appear he's being fair in at least giving George some chance for bail, but in reality he's making everyone supporting George suffer should he choose bail. There will be no mercy in Lester's court.

Rumpole, when was the 'Stand Your Ground' defense denied to George? Was it Lester who did this too?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:58 pm 
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SYG is not denied. It is up to Defence to call for a SYG hearing pretrial and even if they don't they can still argue that at the trial.

They don't have to go with a SYG hearing. There are some things to consider:
- the burden is on the Defence to prove something.
- it only has to be on the predominance of evidence 51% (less than beyond reasonable doubt)
- it is heard by Judge only (Lester).. and he seems biased
- GZ will have to testify.. and be cross-examined. And that evidence will be available at later trial

So... great if it works... perhaps not so good if it fails. GZ can still claim self defence at trial even if he doesn't opt for SYG

Having said all that... my feeling is that O'Mara will go for it. Perhaps after ALL the discovery is released. Which I think will show that the Prosecution has almost NOTHING.

It is hard to fathom WHY people continue to post at forums where they are BULLIED?
At the very least they have to "bite their tongue" while those of the "opposing" view can say what they want about the case, including unsubstantiated derogatory remarks about people involved in the case.
And it seems snide remarks about other posters are OK from one side only?
Why continue to post there?

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Zimmerman posts $1 million bond, released from jail
Updated: 12:42 p.m. Friday, July 6, 2012
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SANFORD, Fla. —

George Zimmerman was released from the Seminole County Jail around 2:50 p.m. Friday after posting a $1,000,000 bond.

Under normal circumstances, a defendant would have to come up with the entire $1 million in collateral. However, it's possible Zimmerman's bondsman will allow the family to put up less than that in property. It’s up to the bondsman and the risk he's willing to take if Zimmerman were to skip out on the bond. If that were to happen, the bondsman would have to assume financial risk for the difference.

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George Zimmerman Released from Florida Jail


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