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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:35 pm 
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I wonder who George will get as an attorney? Not O'Mara. Does he have one since his last bit of stupidity?

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I was sure hoping it was a old story or just wrong ....... :46


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Isn't Florida one of those states that if the police show up for a domestic violence call, at least one person HAS to go to jail? (At least, that's what my limited viewing of COPS leads me to believe.)

Maybe it's just that. Or maybe Zimmerman actually acted stupidly.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:43 pm 
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Yes Chip.... it COULD all blow over... it seems to me "domestics" often do. Not saying that is necessarily a GOOD thing... domestic violence usually does persist and "incidents" reoccur.
But... we don't know the facts here of course.... we await the hearing (or more leaks)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:45 pm 
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I was sure hoping it was a old story or just wrong ....... :46


When I did a Google search as this news broke... a top link was to CTH..... I of course went to that :)

That was a link to the earlier incident with Shellie etc.

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Rumpole wrote:

When I did a Google search as this news broke... a top link was to CTH..... I of course went to that :)

That was a link to the earlier incident with Shellie etc.


I popped in at nettles to see if they knew anything and they are saying it is the same lady that was in the truck when him and Shellie had there little run in. :(


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Before I go wading in... I need more details besides TMZ for this. Pretty much everyone else in MSM has said that they were unsure of the events surrounding this so if there was something everyone would be crowing about this.


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Just saw this on Mark Eiglarsh's blog...

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Now, here's my take. First, the biggest problem for Zimmerman is the pregnancy thing. If the alleged victim really is pregnant and there's sufficient evidence to prove that he knew it at the time he alleged struck her, then he will be charged with Aggravated Battery, pursuant to Florida Statute 784.045. Because that crime is a second degree felony, he could face up to fifteen years in prison.

If she either wasn't pregnant and/or Zimmerman didn't know it at the time, he still could face domestic violence battery charges, subjecting him to up to a year in jail. Either charge he faces will be brought by a prosecutor, who I anticipate to be extremely aggressive and zealous. Most prosecutors who handle domestic violence cases that I encounter in court on a daily basis, fit that description. Most of them believe that every domestic violent defendant could be the next O.J. Simpson, ready to escalate the violence and prepared to commit the ultimate crime at any moment.

Even if his alleged girlfriend wants the charges dropped, she will learn that she has no control over that decision. It's not her call. This case, like his murder case, will be titled, "State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman" and not "Zimmerman's Girlfriend vs. George Zimmerman." That means that the alleged victim is considered by prosecutors to be a mere witness in this case. She will play a significant role in assisting prosecutors decide the appropriate plea bargain to extend, if any. However, whether this case goes any further, isn't her call. Short of claiming that she lied to law enforcement, I expect this prosecution to continue.

What is uncertain at this time is whether he committed any offense at all. Zimmerman deserves the presumption of innocence in a court of law and will only suffer any adverse consequences if sufficient evidence exists to prove him guilty. He has learned that all too well.


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Thanks, Froggie... not looking good for George... IF he did anything.

I take the point that it will be State V GZ... not Girlfriends choice to drop charges... but if she refuses to testify they will be short of any witness... so hard to proceed.

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Has his brother tweeted anything about this yet?

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I have not seen any Robert Zimmerman (Jr) tweets on this..

https://twitter.com/rzimmermanjr

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Dam the news conference said he and Girlfriend had verbal argument and he pointed a long barrel shotgun at his girlfriend!! If true, he's done!


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WHAT news conference?

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Police say the victim is not pregnant!!

News conference

http://m.clickorlando.com/news/deputies ... index.html


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Thanks..

Also at...............

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/wftv-li ... t-1/v7PNh/

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1 felony 2 misdemeanors

Felony = Pointing shotgun

Misdemeanors = pushing her out of house (battery) and damage to table he broke after that.

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ahhh there ya go, argument was about breakup!! Is GF pulling a Shellie?


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Maltese Mama wrote:
Has his brother tweeted anything about this yet?




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To top of the day. According to the OS, Trayvon's Mom and Crump were to speak at Harvard Law today.


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