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Hearing Continues with submissions regarding sentencing..Impact statements etc


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Peterson gets 38 years after screaming, 'I did not kill Kathleen'

By Matthew Walberg and Steve Schmadeke Tribune reporters
4:44 p.m. CST, February 21, 2013

Moments after screaming in court, "I did not kill Kathleen," Drew Peterson was sentenced to 38 years in prison for the 2004 murder of his third wife Kathleen Savio.

Peterson had faced as much as 60 years, but Judge Edward Burmila said he gave Peterson some consideration for his years as a police officer and his service in the military. Peterson is 59.

The sentence was handed down after Peterson, who did not testify at his trial, made an emotional appeal to the judge, at times appearing to choke up as he argued that he was convicted by "rumors, gossip, outrageous lies and, most importantly, unreliable hearsay."

"I don't deserve this," he told Burmila. "I don't deserve this."

Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, was convicted last fall of drowning Savio in her bathtub.

Peterson began his appeal to the judge today by telling him, "Good day, my name is Drew Peterson. I hope I don't aggravate the situation here, but I have a lot of things to be said." Then he screamed, "I did not kill Kathleen!"

"Yes, you did," a woman said.

"Ma'am, I'd like you to leave the courtroom," Burmila said. "And Mr. Peterson, don't make any outbursts that are designed to aggravate people."

"I'm sorry, your honor. I must have been woozy," Peterson said.

After the sentencing, State's Atty. James Glasgow dismissed the outburst as a "shrill, kind of feminine screech."

Peterson insisted to the judge he is the victim of an unjust and invasive police investigation that ignored or lost evidence that could have shown his innocence. He accused the state police of falsifying reports.

"What they did uncover was rumors, gossip, outrageous lies, and most importantly, unreliable hearsay. Hearsay that pierced three privileges that have stood for centuries," Peterson said.

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US justice system not doing too well in these high- profile cases IMO.

Casey Anthony should have been convicted... jury got that wrong.

Drew Peterson should have been found NOT GUILTY... that was more a result of the "hearsay"
Hearsay is excluded for good reason.. should be more so in this case with the case tried in the media for 3 years and people with strong biases already, hardening and "rehearsing" their testimony perhaps.
To change create a law aimed at at individual AND apply it retrospectively... is IMO a travesty... an abomination of the legislative and judicial process.

Scott Perterson.... that case may successfully appealed and will be required to be retried

George Zimmerman should never have been charged. A Trumped up/Crumped up PCA, filed for "political" expediency and orchestrated by a blatant "Scheme team" hell bent on financial rewards and with no regard for the TRUTH or justice. Their only regard for the judicial system is how best to work it to suit their Schemes.

Joran Van der Sloot In regards the Natalee Holloway disappearance...Since there is no evidence of a crime, let alone evidence implicating Joran..... the lynch mob just want him locked up, brutalised, raped and Murdered...they see that as part of their system of justice. In such matters.. the worst most vile prison inmates become "their guys" dishing out "their justice".

Still.... Casey Anthony not-withstanding .... mostly I guess, the general public are happy. They really don't care about the niceties of the judicial system so long as the people that they "know" did it get convicted.

I would caution though that it is increasingly revealed that "The Media" do get things wrong.. either slipsies (mistakes) or straight out manipulation (lying). As an "Entity" "The Media" themselves get a notion of who is guilty and so pursue that path rather than reporting ALL the facts in an unbiased way. So how on earth can the mob get all the facts?

I am sure most people will be joyous with the result today... but... if the Judicial system is just there to decree what the popular opinion is.. why bother? Why not just have a POLL at JQ.... to decide guilt and the penalty.

Or perhaps just bring back Pitch Forks and Flaming Torches?

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Drew Peterson's entire emotional courtroom speech - Transcript

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Drew Peterson's new life will be a sharp contrast to the one he once had

Ex-Bolingbrook police sergeant begins 38-year sentence at Pontiac prison


By Stacy St. Clair, Chicago Tribune reporter
4:17 a.m. CST, February 23, 2013

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With a 38-year sentence at age 59, Drew Peterson most likely will spend the rest of his life in prison.

The former Bolingbrook police officer acknowledged as much in a tearful, rage-filled monologue before his sentencing Thursday. Barring a successful appeal, Peterson will not be eligible for release until he's 93. But he estimated he would not make it that long because he has developed high cholesterol and has been twice diagnosed with skin cancer since his incarceration at the Will County Jail.

"I'm not looking for any sympathy, but anything you sentence me to, you're sentencing me to the Department of Corrections to die," Peterson told the court in a raised voice choked with emotion.

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I agree. Hearsay laws are there for a reason.. such evidence is not open to cross examination. A law change applied retrospectively.. just aimed at Drew is a TRAVESTY.



I go on and on about hearsay laws and how they created this new one to pin him and I agree it is a travesty, but this is IL and the worst state in the republic. although actually so much was not allowed and instead they used a law of forfeiture by wrongdoing which still let hearsay evidence into the case. And actually I still can't understand how it fit because it seems you kill a witness to keep you from testifying against for their own murder? He may get an appeal.



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Packy - you probably noticed that this post had your message inside quote box.
Happened to me too.
It is a problem when quoting embedded Tweets.
You can not have an embedded tweet inside a quote box.
Delete the tweet (as I just did) or copy it and post outside the quote box


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IANAL but common sense is enough to see the dangers in hearsay evidence. And what was used in this case specifically was particularly risky because all the so called "independent" witnesses had seen all of the media circus and trial of Drew in the Media for 3 years.

The only reason they reopened the Savio case was that talking heads had convicted Drew of murder of Stacy, but had no evidence. The only reason they exhumed Kathleen's body is that they already had preconceived notions that they would find evidence of foul play.
To involve Baden in an autopsy was nuts since he of all people had preconceived ideas.. and had been making money off spouting his notions in the media for 3 years. It was he who pushed for the exhumation.. something of a media stunt. Even the legit autopsy is flawed from a scientific point of view.. because it was done with preconceived notions and expectations.

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packy wrote:
Rumpole wrote:

I agree. Hearsay laws are there for a reason.. such evidence is not open to cross examination. A law change applied retrospectively.. just aimed at Drew is a TRAVESTY.



I go on and on about hearsay laws and how they created this new one to pin him and I agree it is a travesty, but this is IL and the worst state in the republic. although actually so much was not allowed and instead they used a law of forfeiture by wrongdoing which still let hearsay evidence into the case. And actually I still can't understand how it fit because it seems you kill a witness to keep you from testifying against for their own murder? He may get an appeal.



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Packy - you probably noticed that this post had your message inside quote box.
Happened to me too.
It is a problem when quoting embedded Tweets.
You can not have an embedded tweet inside a quote box.
Delete the tweet (as I just did) or copy it and post outside the quote box


Thanks, Rumpy, I was going nuts trying to edit and edit. Didn't think about deleting the tweet.


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