Maybe it would be really helpful to see what kind of a threat Reeva would have been encountering if there had been a delirious enraged Oscar that night.

It is a visual of the Tattoo I described above and and the ambulatory reality Oscar had to work with for the acrobatics he would have had to pull off. Tell me this is somebody a virtual yoga athlete who was being threatened with her life, wouldn't have been able to find a way to neutralize or do something other than cower in a toilet.


The prosecution is flailing around trying to put jello on the wall with a box of nails. Here is your horrific Andre The Giant Valentine's Day massacre-er that Reeva would have had to be in unavoidable, unquestionable and paralyzed fear of.

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Thanks aavi... good hi-res pic showing Oscar's stump and illustrating how DAFT it is to imagine he was chasing Reeva around on his stumps...

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(Though... to be fair.. that pic was a bit tricky... too large and needed resizing.)

I will put this pic in the Reference thread too.

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On a side note I have read about how ambulatory Oscar was on his stumps and how he went about without them as a child so he must have been at no disadvantage with his prostheses off. While the part about Oscar as a child is true (partially he ws still mobile to a degree without them if need be) , the adult Oscar on his stumps is another totally different law of physics.

With his bilateral amputation they put the skin from his heels over a portion of his stumps, as a youth that skin was strong enough and his body small enough, to allow him a pretty good semblance of balance for short times because the weight on his stumps was slight and his center of gravity was lower to the ground. As he got older and his body weight increased, and his center of gravity shifted, he became more and more unbalanced on his stumps. He is terribly unbalanced on his stumps.

Another thing (or two) if Oscar and Reeva had been fighting for hours at what point in the argument did Reeva say, “Time out now Oscar, no more yelling, I need a snack”(rather than Reeva having a midnight snack that Oscar was unaware of) .

Eh? Senseless stuff.

And back to Oscars stumps. We are to believe that Oscar was having a row (a terrible screaming enraged row) with Reeva, but he at some point said, “Time out now Reeva, no more yelling, I am am going to take my legs off, since I am in such an agitated and angry state I feel I should make myself feel vulnerable as well.”

Nonsense.

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Had a bit of time to waste earlier so made a little tongue-in-cheek interpretation of what Judge Masipa would probably like to ask Gerrie Nel, given the opportunity...

Thanks Steve...

I think Nel is actually WORSE than you depict... he is not that specific

Needs more "cowbell" ... if there are three versions.. then I put it to you... there should have been pics of at least 3 Tea-breaks.

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Thanks again, Steve....... Any excuse to post my little YT thing....

Pistorius Trial - Nellie the Elephant

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I think Nellie the Elephant is so funny.

I would still like to know how many neighbours and so called witnesses heard any screaming row between Reeva and Oscar, because thus far, they heard a lot - yet not one of them mentioned on the witness stand in court this horrendous row.

My posting will be as and when because at the moment I have a house full of visitors staying for a short time - between you and me, I'll be glad to get the house back to myself LoL

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Hi Wroughead... nice to hear from you... enjoy the visitors... Cyber stuff can wait.

I don't think there was an argument...Estelle van der Merwe heard something... I think she was trying to be honest in her testimony... but it was one voice and not necessarily from OP's house... and it was not continuous from 2 to 3 am... Baba's evidence was "nothing amiss" at 2:20. Other than that there is no evidence of the sound of an argument from OP's house or anywhere else. Van der Merve could be "honest" in her evidence, yet mistaken in so many ways... as witnesses often (usually) are. It is far from a basis (beyond reasonable doubt) for the State speculation that there was argument starting around 2:00AM... with OP chasing Reeve around on his stumps for over an hour
Then "cornering" her in the toilet and deciding to shoot her?

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We of course didn't see it because of Oscar testifying as he did without the cameras being able to show him.

But when Barry Roux had Oscar do the demonstration of removing his legs and stand in front of the door, you could tell murmurs of shock were going through the galley. It demonstrated how wobbly he was on his stumps and I think that was an OJ equivalent Kodak moment for Roux. It also demonstrated that without his legs, Oscar's height was just barely higher than the door handle.

This you can bet was one image Nel didn't want the 3 deciders to see.

Then he turns it into a two-fer by having him show that--standing on his prosthesis--he can kick way up to that mark that the prosecution thought was a ruse. But whoops! He apparently hits it dead on.

Just coincidentally the mark Vermeulen didn't seem to have much interest in. I wonder why Vermuelen.

Image number two Nel didn't want Thokozile to see

Well played Mr. Roux.

Spot on Steve and I hadn't seen Nellie the Elephant so thanks on that too Rumpole.

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Hi Carm... silly song, but knowing it as I do it's been going thru my head since the trial started

You answered a question I had... you CAN see it in USA... it's "Blocked in some Countries" but YT have stopped telling WHICH countries

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Hi Rumpole, it played fine for me. Funny song and funnier still with Nel and the zooming in on his "looking down his nose" face.

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Steve....love your Nel comic strip!

This is so true. I've had such fun in the past trying to explain that witness testimony can be incorrect without the witness intentionally lying.

If we took all the witness statements and testimonies as being factually correct it would be impossible to reach a conclusion.

I also further extended this proposition to OP's testimony...

...it had an expected result.

Yes Steve.... or perhaps...

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HA what I've been missing! Computer down, husband sick.
LOL here in OR. Feels GREAT!!! Thanks Steve and R.
Love the "editing".
Missed all of you.

Hi Joni

You are not missing much... the trial is on hold all this month... while the Shrinks evaluate OP.

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Reprising a post by Minor4th (Accepted and respected attorney) summarising her take on how the prosecution had done in proving their case.

This post dates back to early May, and so before most of the Defence case so far presented, and well before Nell decided to boost the Defence case.

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About reprising a succinct account of the evidence either proving shots came first or disproving bats came second?

Johannes Vermeulen State door expert was quite clear that the bat strikes came after the shots.

It is pure speculation and a silly logical distortion to try and TWIST that clear evidence into "What if some bat strikes were before and some after" The evidence is that the bat strikes were after the gunshots. It is OP's version and it is the State expert testimony.

Nel was trapped by Roux into stating in open court categorically that the State Version is that gunshots were "second bangs" (just after 3:17)... I think they could have dismissed the charges at that point. It is impossible for the gunshots to have been at that time with cricket bat and all the rest after that before 3:19 phone call.
Nel has avoided explaining first bangs... or explaining the fact that NOBODY heard the "bat on door" after the 3:17 shots.

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