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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:38 am 
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Oscar Pistorius murder sentencing - day 3


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:37 am 
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Lift off...

Witness is a blonde who gave evidence at trial.... I think I heard Lee Martin as name? Says "Its changed her life completelt.. still effecting her children greatly ( after 3 years)... spare me!!!!!

She still had to attend a "workshop" last weekend

Talk about a determined sel imposed "victim"

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The Guardian has a LIVE BLOG

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -steenkamp

Final state witness is Kim Martin
Kim Martin is a cousin of Reeva Steenkamp, and previously gave evidence to this same court during Pistorius’ initial sentencing hearing in 2014 – at which he was given a five-year sentence for culpable homicide.

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Roux on Cross.. clearly going top rip this silly delusional bitch a new one.

She PERSISTS in pushing the FALSE notions already REJECTED by the court.. but pushed by nasty media.

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YouTube stream works perfectly, thank you for posting!

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Nel is a big fat liar... what he claimed might take "2 hours" took just a few minutes!!!

Clearly is WAS a "tactic"... he did not want to reveal this witness and then give Roux overnight to prepare a cross examination.

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Barry Roux is up for the defence. He says he was very careful and respectful with Barry Steenkamp yesterday and feels sorry for the family.

But he says the time has come to challenge some of what has been heard. He says the family story has changed.

He reads reports from friends of Steenkamp’s who described a good relationship between her and Pistorius. One said Steenkamp had said she loved him and would marry him if he asked her.

Martin says this was not what her cousin told her. They were close, she says:
"Reeva had the opportunity to tell me she loved Oscar and she never did."

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Witness done with... that could have easily been done YESTERDAY... Nel is a devious piece of shit!!

Now we have closing arguments

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Miserable, sour pair... none too bright and willfully ignorant of the facts. They have long since USED UP the sympathy they deserve.

They SHOULD be moving on after 3 years..

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ALL of the wilful ignorance in the press and amongst the chattering online gossipers is a result of NEL... who KNEW his fanciful ideas about an argument were IMPOSSIBLE because of the hard evidence.

Nel is a nasty piece of shit who even now persists in pushing false notions that he KNOWS are lies and that he KNOWS is driving the wilful ignorance of others.. most noticeably Reeva's family. They are stupid people.. easily lead and NEL does them a disservice by instilling this notion that their daughter died after sustained attack.... died in fear of her life cowering in the toilet.

And ... the reason Nel is doing all this is just for the sake of his own ego... his desire to WIN.. even though he KNOWS that he is arguing a lie. Nel is clearly a dangerous sociopath with no regard for anybody else... he has found an outlet for his psychiatric problems as a Lawyer.. he might otherwise have found an outlet as a serial abuser/killer... as often happens with sociopaths

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Roux looks to be nearly finished... but even so... wants a tea break :wall

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During the break, reporters in court say Pistorius has changed his clothes, from a suit to a hoodie and shorts – possibly the defence is going to discuss his prostheses.

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Oscar looked pathetic on stumps... and clearly a broken man.


Nel is as bad as I feared....
He now argues that now that Appeals Court has found Dolus eventualis... its actually borderline dolus directus :doh

Nel never satisfied...... when the trial originally found just Culpable homicide.. he said it was ALMOST Dolus eventualis... having been granted that... he again claims next crime up :wall

He want sentence consideration to START at 15 years.

Previously Roux hinted that just Community Service was indicated beyond what OP had already endured.

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Nel seems to be gonna take a loooong time... and its LUNCH!

They dont normally do more than 1 more hour after lunch.. so who knows if they will even get through this?

They were due to finish today then have a day off before Judge announces sentence?

I assume that the Judge at least has other cases tomorrow?

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It was difficult watching Pistorius today, more than any other time that I can remember. Yes broken and beyond dejected. :( I may need to skip over him on his stumps.

Yes, "sour" is the exact word I was thinking of also .. cameras showed too much of them. I think they desire a sentence of "stoning" and want to be a part of it.

I assume that the Judge at least has other cases tomorrow?

Seems like I read there would be five days of court this week, with Judge setting aside one day to ponder her decision.

Thanks for summary details, I didn't make it to the end.


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I meant to note that Nel got his turn not long after Oscar seen on stumps and the FIRST thing Nel said amounted to a nasty threat to now release photos of dead Reeva to show injuries... a Prime example of Nel's nasty "tit-for-tat" mentality.
He did say he would ask Reeva's parents first... and I wondered if they , let alone the court would allow such nasty, pointless reaction.

But I see headline that Nel will do this?

The Judge has SEEN these photos... there is no reason to make them PUBLIC for the sake of arguing to the Judge about sentencing.... It is nothing but a nasty vindictive act by Nel.... to turn the general public against OP/punish OP beyond any Court sentence... Nel's own personal little bit of punishment.

Nel is STILL banging on about OP not giving a "version" that Nel accepts. Nel pushing this made up "problem" that OP has not said "why" he shot. Oscar has answered a million times... it is only Nel who has a problem

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Oscar Pistorius hearing: photos of Reeva Steenkamp's injuries to be released
  • Pistorius removes prostheses to walk on stumps in court
  • Judge will hand down sentence on 6 July for murder of Reeva Steenkamp
  • Court rules photos of Steenkamp’s injuries can be published

Sentencing will take place on 6 July
  • Judge Thokozile Masipa said the court would reconvene on Wednesday 6 July for her to hand down sentence.
    Masipa also allowed an application by chief prosecutor Gerrie Nel, backed by the Steenkamp family, to publish photos of Reeva Steenkamp’s injuries.
  • Nel: Isn’t it time we now finally let the world see what this accused did with four black talon rounds through a door?

...more at link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... -steenkamp

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An end-spurt on proceedings today....

Oscar Pistorius murder sentencing date expected


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Nel: Isn’t it time we now finally let the world see what this accused did with four black talon rounds through a door?



I am pleased that you and Molly are keeping up on this and posting, all I needed to do was read this little snippet and I start wanting to throttle Nel. What a piece of work, an absolute scumbag, if the court has determined that the shooting was accidental and the court has made that determination then Nel's theatrics and vileness should be immediately objected to and sustained. It sounds like Nel is trying to get a sense for premeditated murder. Again.

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Hi Carm

I SHUDDER to thing of Les Tricoteuses at WS getting all orgasmic as they cheer Nel on. They will be loving this.

IF you do watch any of the trial vids... you will see that this PERSONAL with Nel.... he seems to get his rocks off by torturing OP.. an already broken man... a cripple really. Nel's version of event was a total lie.. HE CAUSED all the misconceptions that he is still persisting with. It is a MYTH that OP was a "bad witness"... he was brow-beaten and badgered by Nel... but still got through the grilling IMO... this often repeated meme that OP has not said why he shot is just nonsense.. he has said as much as he can.. whatever he does say Nel twists

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