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The victims are identified as:

Shannon Johnson, 45, Los Angeles
Bennetta Bet-Badal, 46, Rialto
Aurora Godoy, 26, San Jacinto
Isaac Amanios, 60, Fontana
Larry Kaufman, 42, Rialto
Harry Bowman, 46, Upland
Yvette Velasco, 27, Fontana
Sierra Clayborn, 27, Moreno
Robert Adams, 40, Yucaipa
Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, Colton
Tin Nguyen, 31, Santa Ana
Juan Espinoza, 50, Highland
Damian Meins, 58, Riverside
Michael Wetzel, 37, Lake Arrowhead

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Bennetta Betbadal, 46

Bennetta Betbadal fled to America with her family to "escape Islamic extremism and the persecution of Christians that follow Iranian Revolution.”

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ENOUGH !! – Just Who The Hell is “Tashfeen Malik”?
Posted on December 4, 2015 by sundance

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Enough already. All day long, back and forth the pendulum swings as the rabid ideological left spouts their one sided mantra, calling those-who-accept-reality: “bigots and islamophobes”.

Enough already. The insufferable “was-this-Islamic-terrorism” nonsense is just that, nonsense. Of course it was/is terrorism, and of course it was/is Islamic Jihad.

Enough already. Who is this mysterious “wife”, Tashfeen Malik? Pakistani, via Saudi Arabia, via on-line bride, sketchy marriage details – brought in with a visa? No picture of her, some speculation about her name is fake etc. But she knows how to shoot, build bombs, and hates America. We know that much.

Enough already. Meanwhile oh golly, don’t worry about those imported “refugees”.

Enough Already. See something Say something – But don’t you dare say anything about a briefcase clock carried by Ahmed in Dallas with wires and sketchy timing devices, or clock boy will sue you.

Enough already. Obviously Tashfeen Malik is the invisible personification of everything that’s insufferably wrong with the Big Government immigration vetting process, non-process, etc.

Yeah, and yet somehow, we are all supposed to feel better about our internal security apparatus – and their ability to know, vet, identify, track, monitor and catch all those who come from exactly the same ideological place and desire to import Jihad.

Sorry, next time someone mentions anything about our immigration processes, I’m just going to say the name: “Tashfeen Malik”. They’ll stare at me, with that puzzled expression and say “who“?

…. to which I shall retort – “EXACTLY”?

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INSIDE the party killers' home: The family photos, children's toys and books on Islam that lay alongside boxes of ammunition and pipe bombs - before wife pledged allegiance to ISIS on Facebook and couple launched attack

  • Investigators say Tashfeen Malik, 27, left a post on a Facebook page using an alias pledging allegiance to ISIS and its leader al-Baghdadi
  • Malik moved to Saudi Arabia from Pakistan about 25 years ago but returned home to attend Bahauddin Zakariya University where she studied to become a pharmacist
  • Malik and her husband, 28-year-old Syed Farook, were killed in a gun battle with police after a mass shooting
  • Police said 14 died and 21 were injured after suspects opened fire at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino
  • Farook reportedly clashed with Messianic Jewish co-worker Nicholas Thalasinos, who was named as one of the victims, over religion
  • Lawyers for the Farook family said he was subjected to a series of disparaging comments about his traditional Muslim appearance
  • David Chesley, attorney acting for Farook's family, questioned accounts of massacre and whether information released by police and FBI was accurate
  • Farook brought his wife to the US on a 90-day K-1 fiancee visa and that she passed counterterrorism screening as part of her vetting
  • Farook's brother-in-law Farhan Khan said he was a 'bad person' but not a religious ra
  • Farook's older brother, Syed Raheel Farook, is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror
  • Police and federal agents searched a Redlands home, seizing 5,000 bullets, 12 pipe bombs and tools to make IEDs
  • Investigators said Farook was in touch by phone and via social media with international terrorism subjects
  • His friends said Farook, who had been known to pray every day, abruptly stopped going to his mosque three weeks ago


By Ben Ashford And Ruth Styles In San Bernardino For Dailymail.com and Snejana Farberov For Dailymail.com and Khaleda Rahman
Published: 13:05 GMT, 4 December 2015 | Updated: 18:42 GMT, 4 December 2015

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The landlord of the San Bernardino husband-and-wife shooters invited members of the media to tour their rental home in Redlands, California, this morning - just as it has emerged that Tashfeen Malik posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS and its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, shortly before unleashing a deadly attack on a holiday party Wednesday.

A US law enforcement official said the social media post was made on an account bearing a different name and was later deleted. This information provides the strongest evidence to date that the rampage may have been a terrorist attack.

Another official speaking on condition of anonymity said Malik expressed 'admiration' for al-Baghdadi and said there was no sign that anyone affiliated with ISIS communicated back to her and no signs of any operational instructions being passed on to her.

FBI agents have been combing through cellphones and a computer hard drive left behind by the couple in their Redlands, California, rental home to try to establish a motive for the killings.

During the media tour of Malik and Farook's town home Friday morning, an MSNBC reporter found a white wooden crib filled with baby clothes, toys, a child's book of the Quran, piles of family pictures and shredded documents. There was a computer screen, but no computer.

The stunning disclosure about the pledge of loyalty to the extremist group was preceded by news that investigators were looking into whether Malik, 27, was responsible for radicalizing her husband of two years, 28-year-old Syed Farook.

According to Fox News, it is believed that on at least one of Farook's two trips to Saudi Arabia in 2013 and 2014, one or both of the spouses reached out to suspected members of al Qaeda.

Christian Nwadike, a co-worker of Farook's at the San Bernardino County health department, told CBS This Morning that the mild-mannered man was different upon his return from Saudi Arabia last year.

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San Bernardino presser: investigation into shooting as 'act of terrorism'
and info about incident at Regal Cinema (Nov 30-Dec 1, around midnight)
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THX Molly... interesting..

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I’m becoming very convinced the FBI are using the media to kick the hornets nest.

The FBI found Go-Pro camera packaging. Shooting witnesses say terrorist were using Go-Pro. Yet no camera(s) found at scene of final disposition (SUV shootout).

So where did the camera(s) go? Did they deliver to someone?

What were they doing between the initial attack and the SUV shootout?

I think they met with other members of their group, gave them footage (cameras) then debriefed and took off for next venue. The cohorts can’t broadcast the footage, because it would prove there are more active terrorists involved. – Just a hunch.

It could be they are sleeper cell(s) currently laying low, playing normal, waiting to exit the country before we’ll see anything and the FBI is trying to kick them to act now – force them to act or take action, or attempt to hasten their timeline.


Also now deleted tweet pic...

Maybe Tashfeen Malik?

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Dead Jihadi....

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Here we go (Muslim) family denial/spin....

'It doesn't seem plausible to us': Family of US Muslim who killed 14 says they don't believe official account of the massacre and even suggest the Sandy Hook slaying didn't take place

  • Attorney David Chesley is acting for family of Syed Farook
  • Farook, 28, and wife Tashfeen Malik, 27, killed 14 at holiday party in San Bernardino on Wednesday at Inland Regional Center
  • Chesley: 'There were a lot of questions drawn with Sandy Hook and whether or not that was a real incident or not'
  • In Sandy Hook shootings, 20 children and six teachers were killed by Adam Lanza, 20, in Newtown, Connecticut in December 2012
  • Chesley: 'It doesn't seem plausible to us that this petite woman [Malik] would be involved in this sort of hyper-caricatured, Bonnie-and-Clyde crazy scenario'


By Ben Ashford In San Bernardino For Dailymail.com and Nick Enoch for MailOnline
Published: 10:31 GMT, 4 December 2015 | Updated: 20:02 GMT, 4 December 2015

A lawyer representing the family of San Bernardino gunman Syed Farook has questioned accounts of the massacre which saw Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik kill 14 at a holiday party on Wednesday morning.

Attorney David Chesley said they doubted the accuracy of information released by the police and FBI.

Farook, 28, and his Pakistan-born wife Malik, 27, died in a gun battle with police after the mass shooting at the Inland Regional Center.

To illustrate his point, Chesley made a bizarre reference to the Sandy Hook massacre, suggesting it didn't take place as described in the official narrative.

'There have been suggestions that it may be something that was related to their work, that somehow he was a disgruntled employee,' he said.

'But it doesn't seem plausible to us that this petite woman [Malik] would be involved in this sort of hyper-caricatured, Bonnie and Clyde crazy scenario.

'There were a lot of questions drawn with Sandy Hook and whether or not that was a real incident or not.

'But I mean obviously these things were found there, how they got there we don't know.'

The Sandy Hook shootings occurred in December 2012, when gunman Adam Lanza, 20, shot his way into the front entrance of the school in Newtown, Connecticut, which was locked at the time, and killed 20 children and six teachers, then shot himself to death.

When Chesley was asked if he doubted the events of Sandy Hook, he said: 'There has been a lot speculation about it is all I would say.

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After reading Sundance's opinions and questions, I'll just throw this out here.

I still think there were THREE shooters. There were too many witnesses early on who stated there were "three men" ...

Probably wrong. By now they've looked at security cameras. It's just a feeling I have because I don't think the public has been told half of it.

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BBC is showing this photo of her.

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I accept there were just the two shooters :cool

But other people associated with them before the event ( maybe after)

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First Photo of Female San Bernardino Shooter Tashfeen Malik
By RHONDA SCHWARTZ, BRIAN ROSS, JUSTIN FISHELl, LEE FERRAN
Dec 4, 2015, 5:48 PM ET

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Since news today that San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik is said to have posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS around the time she and her husband killed 14 people Wednesday, the world’s attention has shifted to the mysterious mother-turned-murderer.

Malik, who was born in Pakistan, moved to Saudi Arabia 25 years ago when she was about four years old. When she was older, she likely moved back and forth between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, according to a source close to the Saudi Arabian government.

In 2007, she returned to Pakistan to study at Bahuddin Zakri University in Multan and stayed until 2012, according to a Pakistani intelligence official. She was said to be a brilliant student and was not known to have religious or political affiliation while there.

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“The Ziiggii Theory” – The Go-Pro Camera Footage as a Possible Motive….
Posted on December 4, 2015 by sundance

I’m calling this “The Ziiggii Theory” because early on contributor Ziiggii was instrumental in showing how the FBI and USMS (US Marshals) were using Stingray Flights in/around the San Bernadino area during the terrorist attack.

Victims of the terror attack reported seeing the shooters with a Go-Pro camera during the shooting/massacre.

When questioned by media at a press conference the local LEO spokesperson said “no Go-Pro” camera’s were recovered at the point of final disposition – the shootout at the SUV.

However, the Go-Pro angle is confirmed within this seemingly innocuous article from the LA Times:

    ….”Other seemingly more mundane items removed from the home included Christmas lights, an iPhone, a bank receipt, audio cassettes and a notebook with foreign language writing. From a black Lexus parked nearby the agents took shooting targets, a U-Haul receipt, packaging for a Go Pro camera, legal documents and other items.

    The weapons invoices came from Cheaper Than Dirt and Budsgunshop.com, but the document left at the home did not say what purchases the invoices were for”…..

It would be obtuse to think a victim would be mistaken -with such specificity- to note a camera being used during the massacre, and then accept as coincidental packaging for such a camera was found in the terrorist’s vehicle at the residence.

So if we accept the witness, and we accept the police statement about the final contents at the SUV shootout, then where’s the camera?

Further – when you consider there is approximately a three hour unaccounted for window between the attack at the Inland Regional Center and the SUV chase that led to the shootout, there’s more than a strong possibility Syed and Tashfeen went somewhere – possibly met with a co-conspirator [terror cell member(s)] for a debrief and/or hand off of the camera footage.

Question: Was footage of a Christmas party massacre part of the “motive”?

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I am not entirely convinced that Tashfeen Malik was a woman.


I had more to say but WP won't allow it I keep getting the "error" page :98

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If you mean an error here at RT, Carm... that happens :cool

If its worth it... point me where I can find it :)

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One more try I took the Arabic writing out
WP doesn't like this post :(

Trying one more thing Rumpole :roll

Remember all the reports where 2 or three **men** came in shooting? Remember that the reporting that Tashfeen Malik was a woman was at first solely based on the fact that Tashfeen was married to Sayed.

Look at that face, it is very masculine.
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht_ta ... 5_1600.jpg

Look at this picture of a person in Muslim dress from Sayed’s apratment. The body is very masculine.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/ ... 937196.jpg

I remember the angst about the Boston bombers being Muslim but the Muslim connection was more easily accepted by the press and the WH than in this case. Something really, really odd is going on here.

All the stuff in that house other than the gross kitchen looks almost new including the Qurans.
And I didn’t see a single feminine thing in that house. Plus the house is filthy.

Even the name Tashfeen Malik is a question.

http://shoebat.com/2015/12/03/88800/
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And the reason no one can locate her origin is most likely that her name is not really “Tashfeen Malik”. No one is able to find any female named “Tashfeen Malik”. The name is very unusual for a woman and there is no record of any Tashfeen Malik in the U.S. or even abroad in Arabic.

Tashfeen Malik (King) is a nom de guerre for a Muslim Jihadist from the annals of Muslim history. As he is known to Muslims Tashfeen Malik Al-Muahideen, in English: Tafhseen King of the Unitarians (Muslims) and the conquerer of the west.

Short of it is I am not entirely convinced that Tashfeen Malik was a woman.

Ack well you can clean it up and fix the pictures if you so desire :77

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I fixed it a bit, Carm... I tried embedding images, but they are too large... I get the point from the links.

YOU confused me by saying "WP doesnt like..." RT is not WP :95

I DONT like "conspiracy theories"... I am an "Occam's Razor" kinda guy... looks like a woman to me... close enough :cool

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Yeah I'm not a conspiracy fan and I know it is an out there thought but that person looks like a man to me :smoke and the house looks like a women never stepped a foot into it, but then again I am a neat freak.

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