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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:19 am 
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I tried pointing this out on Twitter but it's kind of hard in 140 characters. Anyway, at the 0:55 mark of this video you will see Tiffany, Piaget and Brown's mother all talking and the cop pulls Tiffany and Piaget away. Here is a screen shot pointing out who they are in the video...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:32 am 
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140 characters is a pain :wall
I see what you are saying about witnesses colluding... but THAT was never in doubt, was it?

Are you all in agreement?

Maybe Nettles and coreshift (and others) could join in too. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:15 am 
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The new CNN audio tape further discredits the pro brown witnesses and further disproves the "hands up surrendering" narrative because those witnesses describe a SINGLE gunshot by Wilson at the patrol car and then a second volley but CNN has two bursts of about five shots.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:32 am 
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I suspect that, assuming the audio is legitimate, it excludes the initial firearm discharge from inside the police car.

The most logical timeline:

1) Assault in car, firearm discharge during retention struggle
2) Brown exits the car, leaving behind a dazed Wilson
3) Brown and Johnson make an escape - not likely very quickly (whether due to over-confidence, or the extreme sag of Brown's pants)
4) Wilson comes to his senses enough to get out of the car and attempt to apprehend Brown
5) Wilson begins pursuit of Brown, who is perhaps 30-50 feet away (complete guess here)
6) Brown realizes the cop he just assaulted is now pursuing him, and turns around
7) Brown taunts Wilson, perhaps gesturing aggressively and/or throwing gang symbols at him
8) Brown begins to approach Wilson
9) Wilson fires a six-round volley from some distance, mostly missing Brown (distance, impairment)
10) Wilson pauses to assess/reacquire sight picture; Brown has now almost reached him
11) Wilson fires the kill shots with Brown within a few feet of reaching him

There are certainly many other plausible scenarios. This is but one. There may be plausible scenarios that corroborate witness statements about Brown putting his hands up/surrendering, but this audio, if legitimate, puts such scenarios in serious doubt.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:59 am 
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August 26, 2014 at 10:16 am

I found a new video grabbed it and uploaded to my youtube… It is a few videos put together from various recordings. The first portion I have never seen before. What I found interesting is Crump and them keep saying his body laid for hours uncovered. Yet, at the 0:49 mark a woman in the background asks “what time is it” and the people around her say 12:17. If you notice, the a cop had just covered the body just prior to her asking what time it was. (around the 0:35 mark)

Accord to news, the timeline is
12:01 Officer Wilson first encounters Brown and Johnson
12:04 a second cop arrives on the scene followed by a supervisor a minute later,

So that means that he was only laying on the ground uncovered for approximately 13 – 15 minutes tops not covered!


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No Whites Allowed – Black Mob Brutally Beats White Military Vet For Entering Proclaimed “Blacks Only” Waffle House….
Posted on August 26, 2014 by sundance

Following a recent story where another white couple was beaten to death at a “Blacks Only” McDonalds, the recent “Justice for Big Mike beating” in Mississippi takes on added racial dimensions.

Indeed, a familiar pattern is rising. And, as customary, within the most recent example the Black Police Chief is covering-up the racial motive and trying to play down the hate crime aspect.

Reverse the races in either of these two brutal episodes of violence and the National Media would be running the story 24/7.

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Ferguson – Why The Race War ?
Posted on August 26, 2014 by sundance

BILL WHITTLE: FERGUSON AND THE REAL RACE WAR


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If the Michael Brown Audio Is Real, It May Corroborate Piaget Cranshaw’s Account
By Charles C. W. Cooke
August 26, 2014 1:26 PM

CNN reports on an audio recording that purports to show that eleven shots were fired at Michael Brown:
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One eyewitness account, however, scans much better. Here is Newsweek’s take on testimony from Piaget Cranshaw, a resident of Ferguson who says she watched the events unfold from her apartment:

    It looked like the officer was trying to pull Brown into the car, [Crenshaw said.] When that didn’t work, she said the officer chased after Brown and shot multiple times, though none of those shots appeared to hit Brown. In the end, Crenshaw said, Brown “turned around and then was shot multiple times.”


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FroggieLegs wrote:

“The role of the usher board (which can include a nurses guild) is considered one of importance and honor within black churches. Ushers are the first people we encounter during a worship service; they meet us at the door. They ensure that we are welcomed and comfortable. Their smiling faces and pleasant demeanors set the atmosphere for our worship experience. However, they do more than show us to our seat or tend to the congregation during worship. They are more than the collectors of the offering during worship. And their role is more important that readying the sanctuary in anticipation of that day’s worship attendees.

Eli Wilson, Jr., who prepared today’s worship unit, writes:

The doorkeeper’s position is that of a spiritual conduit. The doorkeeper is the first responder to the people’s anticipation and expectations. Worshippers who are trying to make their way to be in the presence of God are affected by the first persons they see and the look on the faces of those persons. The kind of hospitality extended in the house of God represents the spirit of God in the house where each doorkeeper and nurses guild member serves.

Ushers and nurses guild members are partners in the worship experience with other church leaders. These volunteers play an integral role in worship. Ushering can, at times, be a thankless job. However, it is very much a form of ministry within the church. This reality is clearly seen within black churches. Ushers are our first contact and our support throughout the worship experience.

The work that is executed by ushers and nurses guild members starts well before attendees arrive. In most cases, ushers arrive at the church an hour before service begins. They are responsible for ensuring that the programs and offering envelopes are prepared and organized, that the pews and surrounding areas are neat and clean, and that “post” assignments are made for those participating within the ministry on that day. And once service concludes, ushers are among the last few to leave. Nurses guild members are typically responsible for the church pulpit and more and more are the first responders to persons who may faint or suffer other moments of physical distress in church. Many nurses guild members and ushers are now even certified to perform CPR.”

http://www.theafricanamericanlectionary ... p?LRID=293


Thanks, Froggie. Still not sure why they're dressed up like 1940's style nurses, though. Lol


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That's really a wonderful way to treat your parishioners. Thanks for sharing this with us, Froggie.

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Lawyer Responsible For Released Mike Brown Shooting Audio Refuses to Answer Questions About Details of Recording …
Posted on August 26, 2014 by sundance

This Saint Louis report is claiming 11 shots, we can only hear 10 – Previous analysis HERE

First volley [6 shots] in a 1-5 sequence lasting 1.8729 seconds
{pause and reacquire sequence of 3.024 secs}
Second volley [4 shots] in a 1-3 sequence lasting 1.627 seconds

(Saint Louis Dispatch) Seven shots. A three-second pause. Four more shots. An audio file obtained by the Post-Dispatch on Tuesday is believed to have captured the shooting of Michael Brown Jr.

If authenticated, it would be the first recording of the actual incident to have surfaced since Brown’s death on Aug. 9.

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New GoFundMe site through Shield of Hope:

https://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser

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The original fund collected $234,910

Update New Fund: $170,807

Total: $405,717

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:35 pm 
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H/T Sundance....

The audio does seem to have captured 10 gunshots.

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It is still a long way from being "evidence" and even further from being admissible at a trial (if one ever occurs)

Here is analysis vid..

Micheal Brown shot at 10 times by Officer Wilson, slowed down audio


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REPOST......

County autopsy: Michael Brown shot 6 times from front, had marijuana in system
By Emily Wax-Thibodeaux, DeNeen L. Brown and Jerry Markon August 18

FERGUSON, Mo. — An unarmed black teenager had marijuana in his system when he was fatally shot six times by a white police officer, two people familiar with the official county autopsy of Michael Brown said Monday.

The autopsy by St. Louis County chief medical examiner Mary Case, released to state prosecutors late Friday, found that Brown, 18, had six gunshot wounds to the head and chest and was shot from the front, the people said. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of Brown’s death, which has triggered violent protests in this St. Louis suburb that continued Sunday night.

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It seems for now we are told SIX shots all from front, so....

Assuming at least some of final 4 shot volley were fatal shot(s), there must have been at least some of initial 6 shot volley fired at Brown as he faced DW... most likely all.

I have little doubt that all 10 shots were fired as Brown approached Wilson. I think there was at least one shot fired in car during struggle for the gun. So I am picking 11 shots fired, and 5 missed. Understandable especially since Wilson dazed, with damaged eye socket.


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I've seen enough to conclude that Brown was just another thug who got what he deserved. Case closed as far as I'm concerned. Personally I'm more concerned about the thousands of folks who are robbed, raped, beaten, and murdered by blacks every day.


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No argument from me, rovatek

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Hidden Video Of Dorian Johnson (Mike Brown Accomplice) Within The Crowd – Prior To Talking To Media/Authorities…
Posted on August 26, 2014 by sundance

CROWDSOURCING REQUEST – Located within this inital media feed video of the Ferguson shooting various rumors and speculations can be dispelled:

1. The Reporter outlines how several (5 or 6) shots were fired after the arrival of the media. Hence the initial problem for the Police securing, and processing, the crime scene. This was part of the delay in morgue body recovery.

2. Clearly you can see Officer Darren Wilson’s POLICE SUV being removed by flatbed tow truck as it was evidence in the shooting.

3. Almost every “eye witness”, as well as Dorian’s mom, can be seen (albeit quickly) in a group discussion prior to giving the visible Detective statements.

4. However, perhaps more importantly, is the visibility of Mike Brown accomplice Dorian Johnson. Until now – his immediate location was unknown.

Unarmed Black St Louis Teen Shot Dead By White Police Over Suspected Shoplifting!


Dorian Johnson who, as witnessed, (@2:01) can be seen to have removed his T-Shirt -worn in the Ferguson Liquor Strong-arm Robbery- and standing in discussion with another male who is wearing a ball cap. Dorian’s T-Shirt slung over his left shoulder as he watches the scene from a safe distance.

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Mike Brown Shooting – Open Discussion Thread
Posted on August 27, 2014 by sundance

Jason put this reference map together which helps to give some perspective to the reports and videos many have been following. One of the more interesting aspects is where Dorian was located when the initial crowd, police, and media were gathered following the shooting. It helps to understand Dorian’s intents and puts context to his immediate behavior.

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Additionally, there’s an interesting family dynamic which reconciles some of the after-shooting intra-personal behaviors.

It was obvious at the funeral there is a rather significant chasm between the biological mom Lesley McSpadden, her spouse Louis Head, and Mike’s biological father, Mike Brown Senior and his girlfriend; especially as it revolves around the influences immediately encompassing “Big Mike” Brown.

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While there are some dynamics of similarity to the turmoil within Trayvon Martin’s support system, there is a more consequential and visible fracture within the Brown dynamic – due perhaps to the presence of Mr. Louis Head.

None of family structures which would ultimately matter if, in the normal course of events, the Brown’s were to look inward for the source of Mike’s anger. (And anyone who can look at the Ferguson Liquor Store video and not see the anger, is avoiding a similar gut check).

Alas, as we have seen play out far to many times, the need to direct responsibility outward – opens your mind to the dark whisper of blame. Once you open yourself to victimization you position yourself to being deceived by those willing to fill the void. Two of the whispering voices skilled in the art of deception are Daryl Parks and Benjamin Crump.

We do not underestimate the damage Parks and Crump are willing to accept in order to retain their influence and affluence.


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A Dose of Reality for Ferguson, Missouri
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Unlike much of America, I’ve stayed quiet about the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. As a cop, I know initial media reports about any incident are usually wrong. I also know that many media outlets and internet commentators deliberately twist facts to inflame emotion. They’ll throw out empty, meaningless phrases like “he was shot in broad daylight, in his own hometown” even though that has literally nothing to do with the legality or illegality of the shooting.

And it goes without saying that in any incident involving a police officer, many people with absolutely no understanding of police work or lethal violence suddenly think they’re experts. After Brown’s death I expected a loud chorus of hysterical cries from people who had no idea what the hell they were talking about. I haven’t been disappointed.

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