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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:32 pm 
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Thanks.
I don't recognize any of the players.
I'll just wait for the Tests to start next week. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:39 pm 
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It is a practice game (for touring side to get used to conditions).

A 3-day "1st class" match but NZ players not the test players.. maybe some will be one day.

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A quiz question drawn to may attention:

How many ways are there to be given OUT in Cricket?

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There are ten ways a batsman can be out
(five are very common and five very rare)

More often than not a batsman will be
1. caught
2. bowled
3. given leg before wicket (lbw)
4. run out or...
5. stumped

The five other ways to lose your wicket range from the uncommon to the almost unseen.

The uncommon methods, but not unheard of, are
6. hit wicket - when a batsman removes his or her own bails, usually accidentally
7. handled the ball - when he handles the ball without permission from the fielding side.

The almost unseen are
8. hit the ball twice (also known as 'double hit') - as it suggests, deliberately hitting the ball twice
9. obstructing the field - when the batsman prevents fielders from executing a run out or a catch
10. timed out - which is when a new batsman takes too long to appear on the field.

It's worth knowing however that for the batsman to be given out, the fielding team have to appeal to the umpire by asking "how's that?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket ... 180344.stm

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:35 pm 
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A Test match may end in one of six seven results:

All four innings are complete. (I regard this as including 2 different results.. Win or Tie (rare))**
    The team batting fourth are all out before overtaking the other team, usually before matching the other team's score. The team that batted third are the winners by a margin equal to the difference in the aggregate runs scored by the two teams (for example, "Team A won by 95 runs"). Very rarely (in over 2,000 Test matches played, it has only happened twice) the scores can end level, resulting in a tie.

The team batting in the fourth innings overtakes the opposing team's run total.
    The match ends, and the team batting fourth is the winner by a margin equal to the number of wickets still to fall in the innings (for example, "Team B won by five wickets").

The third innings concludes with the team that batted twice still trailing the team that batted once.
    The match ends without playing a fourth innings. The team that batted only once is the winner by a margin equal to "an innings" plus the difference in aggregate run totals of the teams (for example, "Team B won by an innings and 26 runs").

Time for the match expires without a result being reached.
    This usually occurs at the end of the last day of the match. The result is a draw: there is no winner, no matter how superior the position of one of the sides. Rain causing a loss of playing time is a common factor in drawn matches, although matches may be drawn even without interference from the weather: usually as a result of poor time management or an intentional effort on the part of one team to avoid losing.

The match is abandoned because the ground is declared unfit for play.
    This has occurred three times, resulting each time in a draw being declared: England v Australia at Headingley, Leeds, 1975 (vandalism);West Indies v England at Sabina Park, Kingston, Jamaica, 1998 (dangerous ground); West Indies v England at Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua, 2009 (dangerous ground).

The match is awarded through a forfeiture.
    If a team refuses to take the field of play, the umpires may award the match to the opposing team.This has only happened once in Test cricket, in the 2006 Fourth Test between England and Pakistan.
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**A TIE
The team batting 4th matches the exact score on last ball bowled. Then it is a Tie.. which is NOT the same as a draw (no result determined)

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This is unusual, and in the history of Test cricket has happened only twice:
    West Indies (453 & 284) tied with Australia (505 & 232) in 1960.
    Australia (574-7d & 170-5d) tied with India (397 & 347) in 1986.

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Tirade on Number of Overs in a Day

I seem to recall that when it was deemed that a MINIMUM of 90 overs had to be bowled in a day, it still transpired that teams bowled MORE than that on occasions, but nowadays teams almost NEVER bowl 90 let alone a few more in a 6 hour day.

It is not a big ask. I believe 1st class cricket manages 96 overs in a 6 hour day.

It seems to me that the "extra half hour" allowed at end of play to complete 90 overs has not helped... made matters worse even. It has become the norm and players STILL often fail to bowl 90 overs in 6 and half hours now. That means in "normal time" they now only bowl around 82 overs... which is pathetic.!! I guess it shows the evils of appeasement..Giving them more time instead of punishing them and insisting they bowl 90 overs, has resulted in them bowling closer to 80 only.

The extra half hour rule is good, and should stay to cope with unforeseen stoppages.. eg equipment failure, minor injuries etc

BUT... the 90 overs (or more) in 3 x 2 hour sessions rule should be insisted on and ENFORCED. If there is no legit excuse then by all means play the extra half hour ( or more) to make up the overs.. put PUNISH harshly the team responsible.. both teams if need be.

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A suitable punishment would be a one-on-one chat with Mark Richardson telling them where they went wrong. Half hour for each over short
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Spin bowling

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_bowling

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The main aim of spin bowling is to bowl the cricket ball with rapid rotation so that when it bounces on the pitch it will deviate from its normal straight path, thus making it difficult for the batsman to hit the ball cleanly. The speed the ball travels is not critical, and is significantly slower than that for fast bowling. A typical spin delivery has a speed in the range 70–90 km/h (45–55 mph). However, recently in 2010 Shahid Afridi of Pakistan bowled the fastest spin delivery of 134 km/h in a T20 match against New Zealand

Techniques
Spin bowling is divided into four different categories, depending on the particular physical technique used. There is virtually no overlap between the two basic biomechanical techniques of wrist spin and finger spin.

    Off break - Right-handed with finger spin technique. (e.g. Muttiah Muralitharan)
    Left-arm orthodox spin - Left-handed with finger spin technique. (e.g. Daniel Vettori)
    Leg break - Right-handed with wrist spin technique. (e.g. Shane Warne)
    Left-arm unorthodox spin - Left-handed with wrist spin technique. (e.g. Brad Hogg)

Depending on technique, a spin bowler uses either predominant wrist or finger motion to impart spin to the ball around a horizontal axis that is at an oblique angle to the length of the pitch. This sort of spin means it is also possible for the Magnus effect to cause the ball to deviate sideways through the air, before it bounces. Such deviation is called drift.[4] The combination of drift and spin can make the ball's trajectory complex, with a change of direction at the bounce.

This variety of trajectories achievable by a spin bowler can bewilder inexperienced or poor batsmen.

Spin bowlers are generally given the task of bowling with an old, worn cricket ball. A new cricket ball better suits the techniques of fast bowling than spin bowling, while a worn one grips the pitch better and achieves greater spin.[1] Spin bowlers are also more effective later in a game, as the pitch dries up and begins to crack and crumble. This again provides more purchase for the spinning ball and produces greater deviation.

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Thx, Rumpole! :)

I didn't know Warne was a bowler.

Spin bowlers are also more effective later in a game

So this is why I heard him say "surprised bringing Lyon in so early."


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In reply to Molly...

Fielding restrictions (cricket)

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In the sport of cricket, different fielding restrictions are imposed depending on the type of match. They are used to discourage certain bowling tactics, or to encourage the batsmen to play big shots, enabling them to hit fours and sixes. Each team has nine fielders other than the wicket-keeper and bowler. The captain decides the fielding positions usually after consulting with the bowler. In Test cricket matches, the fielding restrictions are relaxed as compared to a One Day International.

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Thanks, Rumpole! :)


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Duckworth Lewis Calculator

https://www.easycalculation.com/sports/ ... ulator.php

Alternative calculator
http://www.boltoncricket.co.uk/DLcalc.html

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Q from Chris (& me since I don't know).

In T20, what is limit of overs for bowlers?

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Max of 4 overs per bowler.

So typically 5 bowlers bowl 4 overs each

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Thank you, Rumpole. :)


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Super Over

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A Super Over, also called a one-over eliminator or simply an eliminator, is a tie-breaking method used in limited-overs cricket matches. The super over is a reduced version of the match that consists only of one over (six balls) and two wickets for each team.

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Rumpole - I've been meaning to ask you the last 3 matches and keep forgetting.

What is your formula for predicting the total runs at the end of an innings? This is what I remember.

25 ov | runs x 3

35 ov | runs x 2

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Yes :cool


something like that.... always with proviso that team has "wickets in hand".... not too many people already out.

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In answer to Molly....

First-class cricket

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First-class cricket is an official classification of the highest standard international or domestic matches in the sport of cricket. A first-class match is of three or more days' scheduled duration between two sides of eleven players each and is officially adjudged to be worthy of the status by virtue of the standard of the competing teams. Matches must allow for the teams to play two innings each although, in practice, a team might only play one innings or none at all.

First-class cricket (which for this purpose includes all "important matches" played before 1895), along with historical single wicket and the modern limited overs forms of List A and Twenty20, is one of the highest standard forms of cricket. The origin of the term "first-class cricket" is unknown but it was used loosely before it acquired an official status, effective in 1895, following a meeting of leading English clubs in May 1894. Subsequently, at a meeting of the Imperial Cricket Conference (ICC) in May 1947, it was formally defined on a global basis. A significant omission of the ICC ruling was any attempt to define first-class cricket retrospectively. This has left historians, and especially statisticians, with the problem of how to categorise earlier matches, especially those played before 1895 in Great Britain. The solution put forward by the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians (ACS) is to classify all pre-1895 matches of a high standard as important matches.

Test cricket, although the highest standard of cricket, is statistically a form of first-class cricket, although the term "First-class" is commonly used to refer to domestic competition only. A player's first-class statistics include any performances in Test matches.

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Thank you, Rumpole. I may look into one of these just to see what goes on.
I've watched matches other than ICC, but don't remember what class or kind of game.

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I thought we discussed various calculations to predict final ODI score?

Maybe it was within a game thread? Putting this link here for reference.


“Double the 30-over score” — a cricket analysis
https://gilmoreorless.github.io/double-30-overs/

An OLD rough rule was "Triple the score at 25 overs"... seems less reliable these days :cool

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I agree, with my little knowledge and experience.
The 30 over score DOES make more sense. Especially if the team already has 4 or 5 players out by 25 overs.

It was discussed ad nauseam on Gab, so glad you put it here. And T20 was mentioned also.

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